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Are you a grass?
13-06-2007, 12:18 PM
Post: #1
Are you a grass?

Inspired by Isis' post re. her thieving ex, in the ..people don't like you..thread, how do you feel about grassing on people?

If you know that someone at work was doing something they shouldn't, what would you do?

Presuming you weren't their boss, how would you deal with it if you found out a colleague was:
  • Stealing cash
  • Stealing stationery
  • Downloading p0rn
  • Having an affair
  • Spreading lies about someone
    • Would your response depend on the crime?

      Similarly, would you report someone for fraudulently claiming benefits? Receiving stolen goods?

      Discuss. :pimp:


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13-06-2007, 01:01 PM
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The closest thing i have had happen was when I was Financial Controller (which included personnel stuff) and I realised one of the staff was doing heroin - I knew he was on something, but it took a while for the penny to drop exactly what it was......

A few things had gone "missing" in the office - bizarrely company clothing was the top of the list, one of the directors had £50 taken out of his wallet (his own stupid fault he always left it lying around) and then it was the basics like tea, coffee and cleaning stuff.......

I finally realised he was on smack one lunch time when he came back to work and as well as having the tell tale pin prick eyes, he absolutely stank of it - and once you have smelt that smell you know it anywhere......to be honest, I didnt know what to do at 1st, I slept on it, then the following morning I told my MD - the company were brilliant with the lad concerned, they offered him all the help and support he needed which he took at 1st, but it was all thrown back at them eventually.....

I now see this lad's name regularly in the court report for drug related offences and I have seen him, he just looks like your stereotypical junkie now - thankfully he didnt recognise me :wink2:

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13-06-2007, 02:18 PM
Post: #3
Are you a grass?
Probably wouldn't do anything re affairs - they are way too common to report but, if someone was using company money, property or time for say, running their own business, yes I would shop them. In fact, I have, that is exactly what was happening and the guy concerned was popping out during the day visiting potential clients for his own company, as well as using the company mobile phone for his personal company and attaching magnetic plates to his company car advertising his own company! Plus there were other things but the amazing thing was , this guy couldn't see why we were bothered!!!
Definitely a different mind-set.....
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13-06-2007, 03:43 PM (This post was last modified: 13-06-2007 03:57 PM by Patsy.)
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Are you a grass?
Stealing cash - yes
Stealing stationery - depends what and how much/often
Downloading p0rn - no
Having an affair - no, but I would probably have a good old gossip about it
Spreading lies about someone - yes
Would your response depend on the crime? - yes

Similarly, would you report someone for fraudulently claiming benefits? - yes, if I had strong evidence.

Receiving swollen goods? - definitely! :shock:
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13-06-2007, 04:30 PM
Post: #5
Are you a grass?
It would depend on the crime.

Stealing cash - Yes
Stealing stationery - No
Downloading p0rn - No (unless it was kiddie porn)
Having an affair - Definitely not. None of my business
Spreading lies about someone - Yes
Fraudulently claiming benefits - Perhaps. It would depend on the circs.
Receiving stolen goods? - Probably not.

Fortunately, I've never been in the position where I've had to make a decision about whether or not to "grass". I hope I never am.
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13-06-2007, 05:21 PM
Post: #6
Are you a grass?
In my case it would depend on the 'crime'.

Working in a bank I would definitely report theft of cash. As for stationery, well hasn't everyone done that to some extent?

Porn, well unless it was flashed around the office and I found it offensive then I'd say no, but I'd probably think they were a bit of a tosser.

An affair, no. Spreading lies, well that would depend on lies and the people involved.

Benefits fraud, I'd like to think I would.

Receiving stolen goods, probably not.
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13-06-2007, 06:11 PM
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It made me think about the concept of grassing and how the concept of being honest is portrayed as being sneaky and almost dishonest, when done against someone else.

Grass, sneak, snitch, rat - they all have very negative connotations when the concept involved is actually to stop a crime or dishonest behaviour.

It's odd how our society seems to vilify the honest citizen and laud the criminal.

There. That's my thoughts for the month. :pimp:


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13-06-2007, 06:48 PM
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floopy Wrote:It made me think about the concept of grassing and how the concept of being honest is portrayed as being sneaky and almost dishonest, when done against someone else.

Grass, sneak, snitch, rat - they all have very negative connotations when the concept involved is actually to stop a crime or dishonest behaviour.

It's odd how our society seems to vilify the honest citizen and laud the criminal.:

It must have something to do with some kind of belief that, underneath, we are all a bit 'bent', and that anyone whistleblowing is acting too-good-to-be-true/ hypocritically etc. Not that I agree with that but I think every organisation hides a lot of malpractice and it's because as humans we are imperfect - and that is something we all ought to recognise.

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13-06-2007, 07:18 PM
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maxine Wrote:Porn, well unless it was flashed around the office and I found it offensive then I'd say no, but I'd probably think they were a bit of a tosser.

Think this would most definately be the case...

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19-06-2007, 03:49 AM
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Stealing cash - yes - it is a crime!

Stealing stationery - I'd advise them against it and if it was more than the odd pen, which we're allowed to have anyway so that wouldn't be theft, I'd report them. Theft is theft.

Downloading p0rn - I'd advise them against it but wouldn't have to worry about reporting them as we have MINESWEEPER and they would be caught, as many have, by I.T. long before any grassingw as required.

Having an affair - Been in this situation and it was common knowledge to all, including management, what was going on so my only problem was wether to tell the wife of the guy involved as I knew her and liked her and hated the fact hubby was cheating on her. I confronted him on the issue instead and well...it's still going on but at least he knows that every one at work knows what's going on and he's treading a dangerous line.

Spreading lies about someone - we have a compulsive liar working here and no-one takes a single word she says as fact anymore...other than that if I thought slander was involved I would let the person the lies were about know that there was a rumour going around about them...what I would not do is simply sit back and let an innocent party get slated for nothing.

Bennefit fruad and stolen goods are crimes so yes I would report them...even if it was just via CRIME STOPPERS!

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