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St George deemed Racist in UK???
04-10-2005, 11:56 AM
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St George deemed Racist in UK???

Jail rapped over St George's pins

[Image: _40870930_flag_pabody203.jpg] The report said race relations were a weak area in the prison

Prison officers at a West Yorkshire jail have been advised in a report not to wear St George's Cross tie-pins.

The wearing of England's national symbol by staff at Wakefield Prison could be "misinterpreted", said the report's section on race relations.

Chief inspector of prisons Anne Owers said she had been told the pins were bought in support of a cancer charity.

But one of her formal recommendations was that "staff should not wear unauthorised tie-pins".

Ms Owers said race was a "weak area" of prison policy.

Her report highlighted "discrepancies in the representation of black and minority ethnic prisoners in some key areas, such as use of force, segregation and the few available jobs".

Brian Caton, of the Prison Officer's Association, said: "If the only problem the chief inspector found was tie-pins carrying the Cross of St George, which is after all the English national flag, then there can't be a lot wrong with Wakefield prison.

"Staff at this establishment are among the most professional in the Prison Service and deal with some of the most difficult, damaged and dangerous inmates, including some of the country's most high-profile criminals."

Soham killer Ian Huntley, last week handed a 40-year tariff for murdering Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, is among inmates at Wakefield, where serial killer Harold Shipman killed himself in January last year. In her report, Ms Owers said: "However, Wakefield is clearly a prison on the move. "But there is a great deal of movement still required in order to make it a fully effective prison, able to engage properly with the serious and difficult offenders that it holds."

Excuse me while I just scream! ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!! :angry:
I want my country and it's values back now, this is mental! :cry:

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04-10-2005, 11:57 AM
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Sorry, link for above: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engla...305798.stm

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04-10-2005, 07:14 PM
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More complete and utter pee-cee cobblers by hand-wringing middle-class patronising liberal wets who really need to get out more and talk to ordinary people about their concerns.

I think they might just discover that the wearing of cancer charity tie-pins is pretty low down the list of things people worry about....
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04-10-2005, 07:19 PM
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Well, just to play devil's advocate here, I think there's probably going to be a fair few racist prison officers in an area like that, and the wearing of an England flag tie pn could be construed as an emblem of that - which is how it is used in certain sub-groups.

I think the cancer pin business is just as likely to be a blind, a disingenuous way of making it look innocent.

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04-10-2005, 08:03 PM
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You know SF, this is all over some of the largest news forums on the net, masses of people have responded to it, but none like you just have. Still, they always say there is nowt so queer as folk! Huh

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04-10-2005, 08:15 PM
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Well I've never been one to follow the crowd.

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04-10-2005, 08:16 PM
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Nah!! You're just out of step is all.........................

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04-10-2005, 08:23 PM
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Who with - the crowd? Suits me!

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05-10-2005, 12:07 PM
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survivorfan Wrote:Well, just to play devil's advocate here, I think there's probably going to be a fair few racist prison officers in an area like that, and the wearing of an England flag tie pn could be construed as an emblem of that - which is how it is used in certain sub-groups.

I think the cancer pin business is just as likely to be a blind, a disingenuous way of making it look innocent.


SF, are you just playing devil's advocate or do you really think this? I'm curious to know why you would think that there would be a fair few racist prison officers in that area? It's unlike you to come out with a rather stereotypical view of certain groups of people.

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05-10-2005, 12:20 PM
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Eternity Wrote:Brian Caton, of the Prison Officer's Association, said: "If the only problem the chief inspector found was tie-pins carrying the Cross of St George, which is after all the English national flag, then there can't be a lot wrong with Wakefield prison."
But that's not the only problem found. So why did he say this?

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