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11-10-2005, 10:12 AM
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Did anyone see this last night with the female body builders? It was mesmerising (and not in a nice way). They all had the voices and coarser features of men, very very bizarre.
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11-10-2005, 12:59 PM
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Sorry, no, and glad not to have either. Women should be women, and men should know their place etc etc! :closedeye

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11-10-2005, 01:02 PM
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I've seen documentaries and things about female body builders.
Personally..I would'nt fancy it...their skin looks all papery and it seems like you would spend your lifetime trying to maintain that shape.
What happens when they stop working etc?
where does everything go...
is it all saggy?
No..it's not for me!
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11-10-2005, 03:04 PM
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I watched this and it was gripping and dissapointing. What was bad was that it focussed on an extreme and by doing so in a mass media way (ie terrestrial tv) you brand the sport of body building as extreme to many a mind.

The lady in question, Joanna Thomas, was a hardcore female bb. She took steroids and so had a deep voice, bad skin and a more prominent jaw line. She had fake boobs that looked awful on her frame. her dedication to BB but total lack of sponsorship meant she had to turn to pornography for money. She was driven but seemed unhappy and lonely (she had moved to LA from Cornwall). Her mum and dad were supportive but sad (they wanted her to get married, have children).

Body building in a non pro way leads to health, confidence and a better standard of living. This type of BB for competition is unhealthy and is about looks more than health. I doubt any young female watching would have been inspired last nite, which is a pity as the work and dedication the girl put in would put most to shame.

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11-10-2005, 06:48 PM
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I go to the gym and have enjoyed putting on some muscle. Two years ago I was tiny at 40 kilos, but with gym training and diet adjustment got to a pretty fit 52 kilos, probably 6 kilos of muscle added, but I was also 6 kilos of pudge light of my ideal weight at 40k, so end total 52.

So anyway, watched with fascination last night, and was pretty much horrified. These women have to torture themselves to compete. There is no doubt you have to be super-committed in how hard you work, but nature and hard work isn't enough,the women are forced to unhealthy dietary practices and drugs just to be able to pass the entry requirements.

As the paper said "they all deny taking steroids, but can't identify which weight it is you have to lift to get a voice like Joe Cocker".
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11-10-2005, 07:04 PM
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I'm sorry, but I think this kind of body building is unnatural.

Women simply do not produce enough testosterone to produce such bulky muscles naturally - no matter how much weight they lift. The only way to bulk up to that extent is to produce more testosterone, and for women that involves taking steriods. Not only is that in itself unhealthy (and potentially dangerous), but it has the unattractive side effect of masculinising the women beyond just the production of huge muscles. It changes their voice tone and can make them produce extra hair (in places they don't want it).

I agree that competitive female body builders have extremet drive and determination - more so than men really as it is that much harder for them. But I'd prefer it if steriods were banned from the sport and women were forced to compete using muscles that they can develop naturally. Apart from the fact that (imo) it is more attractive, it would also be safer.

I agree with IoW that weight lifting without the use of steriods can produce a healthier, more attractive physique in women (and muscle burns fat more efficiently too), but I really think that a lot of women are put off lifting weights because of the image of these over-masclinised, steroid taking, competitive female body builders. Some women think that if they lift weights, they'll end up looking like that!

Frankly, its impossible for any woman to look that bulked up unless they have artificial, chemical help.

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11-10-2005, 07:40 PM
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Yup you nailed it Karen. Bot like the modeling thing where women have to brutalise their body to meet "the standard". Would be nice to see them introduce some protective elements in the sport. If it is deemed medically unhealthy to have less than 10% body fat (she was 2.6, ie extreme), do something like require minimum 5% body for health reasons - stops the excess.

Or just change what the judges look for. What's the deal with bulging veins anyway? Surely you can see who's worked hardest without bulging veins and having to starve and dehydrate the body? Score down anyone who looks like steroids have been used, and score up "natural" muscle. A trained eye knows what to look for, and the judges are supposed to be trained eyes.

As Arnie said coming up to the California elections:

Interviewer: "Arnie, did you do any drugs?"
Arnie: "I inhaled, I exhaled, I did everything"

(too hard for him to say no given he is shown with a big fat joint in his hand in Pumping Iron)
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11-10-2005, 09:33 PM
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(Didn't see it)

But it doesn't have to be this way...

I was at a training course a few weeks back when part of the self-introduction thing was to tell each other a lie and a truth about ourselves.

This woman on the course (drop dead gorgeous american 'woman' in her mid/late 30's) says
1) mother of 3
2) state champion body builder 5 years running


Well....lets be honest, most girls would brag about the fact they don't look like mum of 3 if most blokes over 25 are ogling you!?!?!?

Well the truth was she was the champion body builder......and a mum of 4 !!

most of us couldn't concentrate....would you blame us...she was a stunner!! what's more, exceptional at her job (construction project management)


I think it's like any sport (mine was white water slalom canoeing) you don't have to go over the top....most sports are about control and not bulk....
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11-10-2005, 09:45 PM
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I saw a bit of it. The women had so many steroids pumped into them that they actually looks, and sounded, like men in drag.
Absolutely vile.

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12-10-2005, 02:56 PM
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PJ Wrote:I saw a bit of it. The women had so many steroids pumped into them that they actually looks, and sounded, like men in drag.
Absolutely vile.

Quite.

Hard to believe that she is willing to risk her life to look like a ludicrous caricature ...:blink:

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