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The Uncomfortable Definition of an Infidel...
15-01-2009, 11:35 PM
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The Uncomfortable Definition of an Infidel...

Received this in my inbox today. It's a bit controversial but thought it might make an interesting topic of discussion....

The Uncomfortable Definition of an Infidel...
Allah or the Lord Jesus Christ?


The Muslim religion is by far the fastest growing religion in the UK.
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
maintaining my prison security clearance. During the training session
there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman
Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say.

The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a
video.
After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked:
'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and
clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the
infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a
command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven.

If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'

There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation,
he replied, 'Non-believers!'

I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers
of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith
so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?'

The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command
to that of 'a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the
cookie jar.'

He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'

I then stated, 'Well, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope
Benedict commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr.
Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a
place in heaven!'

The Imam was speechless!
I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your 'friend' when you
and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me
ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to
kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love
you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam remained speechless.

Needless to say, the organizers and promoters of the 'Diversification'
training seminar were not happy with this way of dealing with the
Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.

Within twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.K. to
elect a government of their choice, complete with sharia law

I think everyone in the U.K. should be required to read this, but with
the Liberal justice system, liberal media and the political correctness
madness, there is no way this will be widely publicized.

Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts.

John Harrison MBE. MIDSc
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I have no idea who John Harrison is - I suspect he doesn't even exist! is it just right wing crap designed to stir things up? Or do you agree with what "John" says? I'm not educated enough to know whether what he says about the Muslim religion is true. Can anyone confirm?

Haydon

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16-01-2009, 08:44 AM
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If it's just all about guaranteeing yourself a place in heaven, surely it's just a space issue, and someone should be seeking some kind of funding to extend heaven so we can all fit in?

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16-01-2009, 10:48 AM
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It's Gordon Brown's fault heaven isn't properly funded so as to be big enough for all of us

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16-01-2009, 01:27 PM
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I blame Groucho

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17-01-2009, 01:17 AM (This post was last modified: 17-01-2009 01:21 AM by Gneiss.)
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Quote:The Imam was speechless!
I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your 'friend' when you
and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me
ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to
kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love
you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'?

I'm starting to side with the Imam's "brother clerics" on this one.... :glare:

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17-01-2009, 03:08 PM
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Does anyone know where I can get a t shirt made that says

I'm going to Hell already
don't waste your bullet


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17-01-2009, 04:23 PM
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Haydon Wrote:I have no idea who John Harrison is - I suspect he doesn't even exist! is it just right wing crap designed to stir things up?

Yeah, I'd say it almost certainly is.

The sad thing is that some people will actually believe it.

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18-01-2009, 12:33 PM
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I have emailed John Harrison MBE for confirmation that this article is genuine, I will keep you posted. I sent him a copy of the song Melting Pot by Blue Mink in the sixties, which refers to all races and religions being melted down and creating "coffee coloured people by the score" with presumably equally amalgamated religions as well. The song say's that it will take 100 years. I reckon a couple of thousand is nearer the mark.

Lets hope there is anyone left by then.
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18-01-2009, 01:22 PM
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mrshifta Wrote:I sent him a copy of the song Melting Pot by Blue Mink in the sixties

Do you think he still has it?:mellow:

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18-01-2009, 01:27 PM
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This song from the sixties by Blue Mink perhaps says it all. maybe we need another 100 years.

Take a pinch of white man
Wrap him up in black skin
Add a touch of blue blood
And a little bitty bit of red Indian boy
Oh like a Curly Latin kinkies
Oh Lordy, Lordy, mixed with yellow Chinkees, yeah
You know you lump it all together
And you got a recipe for a get along scene
Oh what a beautiful dream
If it could only come true, you know, you know

What we need is a great big melting pot
Big enough enough enough to take
The world and all its got And keep it stirring for a hundred years or more
And turn out coffee coloured people by the score

Rabbis and the friars
Vishnus and the gurus
We got the Beatles or the Sun God
Well it really doesn't matter what religion you choose
And be thankful little Mrs. Graceful
You know that livin' could be tasteful
We should all get together in a lovin machine
I think I'll call up the queen
It' s only fair that she knows, you know, you know

What we need is a great big melting pot
Big enough enough enough to take
The world and all its got And keep it stirring for a hundred years or more
And turn out coffee coloured people by the score
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