thought I'd start a thread on Bez cause I think he is the bessiest one in there.
I want him to win
Yes his brain is a bit puddled, but he just seems an honest/decent bloke.

And anyone who can make a career out of dancing and shaking some marracas is fine in my book.

I just hope I'anson(the mouth) and Jeremy (the bore) are evicted first and we get to see a bit more editing of Bez

I agree. I know he's difficult to understand, but I thought he had some interesting views on drugs, and Boarding Schools. He seems like a good bloke.

Yep, on what I've seen so far Bez is one of the bezt!

He really irritates me for some reason, probably becasue his eyes move in a different direction to the rest of his head.

Yeah, I'm liking Bez too. Much to my amazement. He's seems a down to earth good bloke. A nice antidote to JMcC!

I'm with me old chun floopy here...when he's on I almost grimace...it's not what he says....its his facial tics and teeth.

Never mind there is time, I may get over this.

What his manages to say does have weight to it tho.

Yeh Im with Floopy too. He may be a pleasant bloke but his facial tics and rolling eyes do my head in.

Great advert for not taking drugs though ..........

He drives me INSANE!!!!!!!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHHH!!

His head wobble just does mine in - I cannot bear to look at him, and if you don't look at him, trying to decipher the blurb that comes out of his mouth is impossible.

He might be a decent bloke - but legalising ALL drugs?? And letting kids make informed decisions?? What planet does this bloke live on - the clever and intelligent planet?? I don't think so??

Hoorah, a backlash crew :cool2: , I thought it was just me.

Gettaway you lot.

Come on, tonight when they were playing truth or dare, Bridget asked him "When you don't have a girlfriend how many times a week to you w**k off"

Bez's reply "3 or 4 times............................................. ...a day"

When everyone screamed he just said "Wot, wot's wrong with that":laugh:

Funnily enough, it's this one that I think is coming over the best right now. Of them all he has been the least involved in any mini wars, doesn't backstab, and just seems to be ambling along in his own little world. He's not a poser and seems up front with what he is - no airs and graces, no tantrums, no acting up.

However, my view does change, well, daily(ish) LOL, but he is playing the game right and fairly just now.

Funnily enough, it's this one that I think is coming over the best right now. Of them all he has been the least involved in any mini wars, doesn't backstab, and just seems to be ambling along in his own little world. He's not a poser and seems up front with what he is - no airs and graces, no tantrums, no acting up.

However, my view does change, well, daily(ish) LOL, but he is playing the game right and fairly just now.Spot on, Eternity. As you say, he is a pleasant world of his own and is a decent, nice chap.
Either him or Brigitte to win, but as Bez needs the money more, it would be nice to see him get it.
Now Ive managed to get over the facial tics, the rolling eyes and his mumbling, I like the chap.

Yep I quite like ol Bezzar as well. I thought he was a complete plonker at first (and had never heard of him), but he is doing good, at least he is not a moaning b****d like most of the others.

Yeah OK - once you get past the rolling head thing, which seems to have settled on his shoulders a bit, he is just a simple little soul in a simple little world of his own.


He seems a bit spotty today though?? Not a criticism, just an observation.

Aww I like Bez - he is the most "normal" person in there - as in he is more like us than the others (excluding the drugs of course, although I know a few back in Leamington that would give him a run for his money where drugs are concerned!)

Im torn between Bridge and Bez at the mo!!

I really didn't like him at first but he is growing on me........& he didn't seem too starstruck by Jackie S which made a change from the other fawning male minions!

Bez, despite being the spitting image of "Bub" from Day of the Dead, is one of the more watchable celebs in that confounded house. I love his involuntary neck movements and occasionally have self-bets as to which direction his neck will jerk in next. He looks as though he's just come straight out of a session with Paul McKenna but he's a "sorted" chap really. Even though he sometimes appears to be having secret self-conversations inside his head, he's still an icon from the dying embers of my Golden Era in the 80's ('84-'91 was mine) so I'm rooting for him. Besides, while I was at Uni, several people remarked that I looked like Shaun Ryder so I feel I have a certain affiliation to the Happy Mondays cause......as much as I detested the group!! :wacko:

At the begining I wasn't sure if I liked Bez or not but now I really like him. His movements are a bit strange but he seems the most likable person in there.

That Happy Mondays group must have been a bit odd, wasnt Rowetta in it too. What songs were they known for as I must have missed them ?

I'm a fan of Bez.

OK, I admit - he'd probably irritate me if I had to spend time with him 24/7 like the housemates. He is pretty drug addled and it shows - physically! But, in the watered-down snapshot that I see of him on the show I can be objective and......he's a sound bloke!

He's not Einstein, but he comes across as genuine, non-judgemental and kind. I liked it that at dinner tonight, whilst most of the table were b!tching about Jackie whilst she was in the Diary Room, Bez tried to make excuses on her behalf. "Oh, c'mon....she's old", he said! It might be misguided support, but I liked his "live and let live" attitude and the fact that he was prepared to speak up for the underdog.

He seems like a decent geezer.

I'm a fan of Bez.

OK, I admit - he'd probably irritate me if I had to spend time with him 24/7 like the housemates. He is pretty drug addled and it shows - physically! But, in the watered-down snapshot that I see of him on the show I can be objective and......he's a sound bloke!

He's not Einstein, but he comes across as genuine, non-judgemental and kind. I liked it that at dinner tonight, whilst most of the table were b!tching about Jackie whilst she was in the Diary Room, Bez tried to make excuses on her behalf. "Oh, c'mon....she's old", he said! It might be misguided support, but I liked his "live and let live" attitude and the fact that he was prepared to speak up for the underdog.

He seems like a decent geezer.Yes I agree. I know that Jackie was rambling on about the wine like a bag lady in desperate need of a bottle of cider in a brown paper bag, but when John started bellowing at her rudely across the table and she stood up and walked away, Bez said, "For gods sake calm down John, shes an old lady..." bless.

Couldn't sleep last night, so got a drink and popped on the live feed for 10 minutes or so.


Bez was in the bathroom with just his jocks on, and poor bloke, he is very badly scared on his body and arms - anyone know what happened to him? I so felt for him, he must have been through a painful life so far. :sad:

I watched a bit of live feed last night and Bez and Brig were having another midnight feast. Watching Bez eat is not a pretty sight - he doesn't seem to be able to chew with his mouth shut. What is it with Brig? She always seems to be cooking at midnight. She did chicken wings for Bez, downed a bowl of cereals herself and then had toast with cheese and cucumber (and I believe some chicken wings too).

Back to Bez - I just find him weird to look at. Those starey manic eyes are quite disturbing but he seems quite an OK kinda bloke.

He's the best in there, warts and all, the only one who is truely what he is, no airs!


I got annoyed with Brig bossing him to get stuff for her, nail clippers I think, she was perfectly capable of asking for herself.

I really didn't like him at first but he is growing on me........& he didn't seem too starstruck by Jackie S which made a change from the other fawning male minions!

Who has fawned to Jackie? I must have missed something if they have, cos everyone is being darn RUDE to her. Jeremy has been reasonably respectful to her.

Im not a huge fan of Bez but I have to give it to him when he told John "I wouldn't have given you the coke if I was them"

Poor ol Bez he is getting really stir crazy in there or is it cold turkey. If he is a drug addict then is he suddenly stopping for 18 days whilst he is in the house? Or are BB feeding him methadone?

He's getting nothing in there Maria, and Bez has got down to just taking Ganja (so I read) anyway, so he's not on any hard stuff just now. I think that was what did keep him going when he kicked the hard drugs, and now he doesn't have that.

If he was on any medication, BB could have refused him the use of it in the house, they are not even allowed to take in prescribed medication without BB's approval!!

He's also one of those people that likes his drink, and being rationed on that is causing him problems.

Poor ol Bez he is getting really stir crazy in there or is it cold turkey. If he is a drug addict then is he suddenly stopping for 18 days whilst he is in the house? Or are BB feeding him methadone?
Bez is not on Heroin or Methadone or another substitute trust me - I know the look of someone who is from a mile off!!!! Bez dabbled and took far too many E's and too much coke, which is part of "dance culture" and the Happy Mondays were a big part of that culture!

Bez is a toker and a drinker, and quite frankley, if I was shoved in the house with that lot, I would be crawling the walls for a splif - I have smoked pot since I was 17 (im 40 now), the last time I went a day without a splif was 4 years ago, I like to think that I can do without it, I would prefer not to though, and given the choice, I would rather have a smoke than a drink!

IF Bez were an addict of any kind, BB would not have allowed him the house to "cluck" I assure you, it is a very dangerous thing to do a detox from class A drugs and he would need medical supervision.......they all go through Psychological Tests 1st, and I am sure that the analysts would pick up on any addiction Bez may have had!

Queenie....my daughter is another on the splif culture, and I know she finds it hard to go without under normal every day situations. Being in with that lot she'd have gone mental, so I actually think Bez is doing very well. Just wish the others in there would see that, but they are a self centred lot!

Queenie....my daughter is another on the splif culture, and I know she finds it hard to go without under normal every day situations. Being in with that lot she'd have gone mental, so I actually think Bez is doing very well. Just wish the others in there would see that, but they are a self centred lot!
SO do I Eternity, I think Bez is doing grand bless him.......

I have said for years that its best I do smoke, as I used to have a very bad and nasty temper, which thankfully now, I can control - could be mellowing with age, but then again it is probably mellowing with weed!

For the record here, I NEVER smoke when I know I have to go to work or do other important things, I control my habit!!! I always remember the gem my Mum told me - Control your habits lest they control you!

Just cos I smoke a bit of pot doesnt automatically mean I will end up a crack or smack head, Im sure that after 23 years, if it was going to happen it would have happened by now!

LOL!!! I so know exactly what you mean Queenie, there are times I insist my daughter makes a splif just for some peace and quiet! (For the record, she is 34!)


I know she's no druggie, she started to take it for health reasons, and it has worked better than anything else for her. Even her Doc knows, he just coughs and mumbles that if it works keep taking it, but he never said that!

He said he had St Johns Wort at the beginning to help him with it?

I don't know Claire, maybe he has, and maybe he's run out.

LOL!!! I so know exactly what you mean Queenie, there are times I insist my daughter makes a splif just for some peace and quiet! (For the record, she is 34!)


I know she's no druggie, she started to take it for health reasons, and it has worked better than anything else for her. Even her Doc knows, he just coughs and mumbles that if it works keep taking it, but he never said that!
When I had gallbladder disease, I told my consultant that it was the only thing that stopped me from feeling nauseous and actually stopped me from being sick - so he said carry on then.........I find it helps my arthritis (in knees and feet) too!

The kids tell me it stops me from being a "she-devil".......Im sure I dont know what they mean!!!!!

If I was in Bez's situation, I would have to sleep - just to prevent me from kicking off - I would have had a reet old go at Lisa by now I think - and I would be as rude and open about it as John is - mainly for the viewers though, and so that no one could accuse me of being 2 faced :laugh:

Bez is not on Heroin or Methadone or another substitute trust me - I know the look of someone who is from a mile off!!!! Bez dabbled and took far too many E's and too much coke, which is part of "dance culture" and the Happy Mondays were a big part of that culture!

Bez is a toker and a drinker, and quite frankley, if I was shoved in the house with that lot, I would be crawling the walls for a splif - I have smoked pot since I was 17 (im 40 now), the last time I went a day without a splif was 4 years ago, I like to think that I can do without it, I would prefer not to though, and given the choice, I would rather have a smoke than a drink!

IF Bez were an addict of any kind, BB would not have allowed him the house to "cluck" I assure you, it is a very dangerous thing to do a detox from class A drugs and he would need medical supervision.......they all go through Psychological Tests 1st, and I am sure that the analysts would pick up on any addiction Bez may have had!
Thats why I found his nomination of Brigitte so annoying and hypocritical. He said she was getting irritable because of a lack of cigarettes (as is he), and that he didnt like being around people who were being deprived of their fix of nicotine because they had such mood swings (as he is now having).

However saying all that, he is the only naive person in there, with no airs, graces and he doesnt have his head up his @rse or feels it necessary to try and make an impression.
When things got out of hand with Jackie at the dinner table, he couldve taken the easy way out and kept quiet but he didnt, he stuck up for her, and he told John that he wouldnt have bowed to his diet coke protest....

I do think that he is his own worst enemy though. Talking about wanting to go over the wall, go and have a pint, get out of here etc gave the others exactly the ammunition they needed to nominate him, using the old get out clause "well he wants out" or "I think he feels he has been in here long enough". His reaction to their nominations was extreme and showed that he actually really didnt mean that he wanted "out" at all ..... Maybe it will teach him not to be so open in future, as they are all snakes in there. (As John pointed out)

The Tale of Bez the Badger & the Toad-in-the-Hole

by Beatrix Plotter

Chapter One

Bez the badger was in the mood to please. He decided he was going to prepare a meal for the rest of the sett. Although the runt of the litter, Bez the badger was as tame as a late summers evening. He set about his task immediately, asking Mr Edwards - a house guest, to see to the oven.
The others were idling around going about their daily business of backstabbing one another. Mr Edwards attended to the oven and then sat down to relax, leaving Bez the badger to his duties.

Once everything was in order, Bez the badger joined the rest for a moment of relaxation. Johnny rat was sat down in a corner of the room, looking smug and very pleased with himself as he smoked his cigar. Bez the badger already felt restless and was up and about before you could say "Jackie Stallone". Wandering over to where Johnny rat was seated, Bez wanted to cause a stir and became embroiled in a set-to with Johnny rat, but it was all over as quickly as it had begun.

Still feeling altogether restless, Bez the badger hadn't yet had his fix of mischief for the day. One knew that mischief was around the corner when one took the time to observe Bez the badger and his many habits. On this occasion Bez the badger's head started to wobble, first one way, and then the other. This spelt trouble for everyone else, but luckily for the others Bez had suddenly remembered his meal, and stealthily rushed over to the kitchen area to remove it from the oven. But something was afoot - the meal was supposed to smell delicious, and as he took it out, it quickly dawned on him that it was spoilt.....burnt to a cinder. Upset and confused, Bez the badger looked for someone to blame, and it was obvious to him who the culprit was. For it could be no-one other than the devious Mr Edwards......."You've put the f***ing grill on instead of the oven!!" growled Bez the badger, in a rather vexed tone. Startled and feeling quite ashamed and embarrassed, Mr Edwards could only sit there and absorb the abuse that was thrown in his direction......"but.....but....I....I...." he offered.

"...ruined my Toad-in-the-f***ing-hole you d**khead. You put the f***ing grill on instead of the bast**d oven - how f***ing stupid can one person f***ing be!" "But I'm quite sure I......." Mr Edwards was again cut off mid-sentence by the now furious Bez the badger...."f***ing grill man, ****** f***ing s**t man.....it's f***ing ruined...Toad-in-the-f***ing-hole....f***ing ruined...."

Mr Edwards' shuddering from the discomfort of the situation fought back the tears and fell silent, when from across the room some friendly words were uttered by Johnny Rat....."It's not your fault....nobodys fault....."
".....completely ruined....f***ing grill....f***ing moron idiot bas***d.......f***ing........."

It was obvious to most of the sett that this might take some time to simmer down. But one thing was certain - Mr Edwards was always going to be an evil nasty man in the eyes of Bez the badger from that moment onwards.....

Continued ......

Mr Edwards aka Jeremy the Rat, glanced sneakily to make sure the camera was on him and then went into a helpless shrug, trying to look apologetic and contrite at the same time ....
F****in' b*st*rds maaaaan.... raged Bez the Badger as Lisa the Stoat looked at Jeremy the Rat with stern eyes and pointed out that yes, he HAD been a naughty rat and switched the grill on.
Bez the Badger waggled his head, and stared daggers at Jeremy the Rat who was still sat on his egg chair, trying to wipe the supercilious smug smirk off his face and get into "actorrr mode", and try and look helpless and sorry again.

It didnt work. Despite Bez the Badger looking a bit on the scary side and being a bit of a sweary mary, most of the viewing public saw through Jeremy the Rat's apology and disliked him all the more ....

The moral of the tale being; always make sure you know how an oven works rather than pretending to, or you may find a toasting fork in your back, come the morning.......

In spite of you stealing my thunder and pre-empting my 2nd chapter, I'm thoroughly satisfied with your version of events within the sett, that occurred post-quarrel. I shall move on to chapter three.....

My one bone of contention was that I thought John was the rat. Now, suddenly there are two of the blighters, but that's fine so long as they can all get along.....the rats and the badgers. Lisa transmogrified into a stoat was very apt also. Thanks. :)

In spite of you stealing my thunder and pre-empting my 2nd chapter, I'm thoroughly satisfied with your version of events within the sett, that occurred post-quarrel. I shall move on to chapter three.....

My one bone of contention was that I thought John was the rat. Now, suddenly there are two of the blighters, but that's fine so long as they can all get along.....the rats and the badgers. Lisa transmogrified into a stoat was very apt also. Thanks. :) John is Chief Fat Rat with Jeremy being a little squealing ratling hanger on :wink2: .....
Im glad you liked the fact that Id recognised Lisa as a Stoat ... may I respectfully suggest that Brigitte is the rabbit (as she allegedly is up for it, as many times as a rabbit) and Caprice is the dormouse - pretending to be all cute and fluffy but with big front teeth that give you a nasty nip should you venture too close....

John is Chief Fat Rat with Jeremy being a little squealing ratling hanger on :wink2: .....
Im glad you liked the fact that Id recognised Lisa as a Stoat ... may I respectfully suggest that Brigitte is the rabbit (as she allegedly is up for it, as many times as a rabbit) and Caprice is the dormouse - pretending to be all cute and fluffy but with big front teeth that give you a nasty nip should you venture too close....

yes you may. Bridget the rabbit, Caprice the Dormouse, Lisa the stoat and Jeremy the hanger-on rat. I must remember those when I decide to release Chapter Three.......coming soon to a forum near you!!

Still need an animal costume for Kenzie though...anyone make any suggestions??

...too cruel, too cruel!! [to badgers]


Bez - nope he is off my Christmas card list, I am going back to my original thoughts about him - he drives me nuts/insane/mental!!! What on earth was that finger and that handed W at the camera, followed by a zombie, starey eyed wobble all about???

Stupid bloke, yeah simple, yeah ignorant, but stupid stupid, dummy out hte mouth and toys out of the pram.

... he drives me nuts/insane/mental!!! What on earth was that finger and that handed W at the camera, followed by a zombie, starey eyed wobble all about???
Oh I was cracking up laughing when he was doing this, I thought it was hilarious:laugh:

yup agreed flip. i was gonna post about bez before tonites show but ran outta time and tonites episode confirmed the idiotness of bez. he certainly doesnt deserve all that praise you guys are giving him! talk about throwing your toys out the pram or what?!! is the true bez beginning to shine through?

as you guys were all praising bez till kingdom come about how he doesnt get involved in the spats in the house and the rest are playing a game and he seems to be the only one that isnt. well i reckon, BEZ is the one playing the most games by NOT getting involved in the fights. the rest have offered an opinion for something they disliked and if they were playing the game they wouldve tried to hide thier nastiness. i think bez has been hiding his real personality and no one can hide their true self for very long and thats why arsehole bez is beginning to come out.

Well, Ive been very up and down about Bez. He confuses the hell out of me. Firstly his mad eyed stare, wobbly neck and stupid laugh irritated the hell outta me, then his obvious lack of guile and the refusal to join in the bullying of Brahhhhckie Stallone made him go up in my estimation, coupled with his live and let live attitude and chill out maaan attitude. Now he seems have gone stir crazy a la Vanessa Feltz, his belligerent eyes scare me again, he keeps shouting incoherently at the rest of the housemates, threatening to trash the place or punch peoples heads in (choose Lisa pleaaaaaase) - which means he isnt the nicely chilled guy I thought he was.

Confused? I am. :huh:

He's in dire need of a dam good spliffing is all!:wacko:

im afraid to say thats very sad how some people cant function normally without drugs. needing a spliff is not a good excuse for being a tw@t.

He's in dire need of a dam good spliffing is all!:wacko: and he had the cheek to nominate Brigitte because she was getting "mooodehhhh" through nicotine withdrawal. What a hypocrite !

I think he's horrible.

He looked scarey last night. I think he's a man on the edge and I fear for the safety of the other housemates. He should be got out of there fast. On the other hand......

He has just flipped the last couple of days, oddly since he was nominated to go by the others. Makes me wonder if he was using the house as some sort of security blanket, and he felt comfortable and liked in there - only to have it all ripped away. He does know he got more nominations than John, and he knows what they all think of John, I think he lost any self esteem he had.


Actually, I was a total insomniac last night and he did something that made me laugh so much - I won't give it away, but he must have scared 7 kinds of s**t out of the producers of the programme! :laugh:

Hm I have gone off him a bit the way he was stomping around and threathening to "smash the place" up just because he was nominated - drrr - its a GAME! Still it would be fun..................

He has just flipped the last couple of days, oddly since he was nominated to go by the others. Makes me wonder if he was using the house as some sort of security blanket, and he felt comfortable and liked in there - only to have it all ripped away. He does know he got more nominations than John, and he knows what they all think of John, I think he lost any self esteem he had.


Actually, I was a total insomniac last night and he did something that made me laugh so much - I won't give it away, but he must have scared 7 kinds of s**t out of the producers of the programme! :laugh:

yeah....climbling up that wall was very mischievous of him....oops!....damn!

Awwww Woodstock - you stole my thunder!! :angry:


Actually, Bez did one very good thing last night (apart from the comedy of horrifying them in The Office). Kenzie decided he wanted to have a go at one of Brigette's cigars, and Bez stopped him saying 'You don't want to get a habit you don't need man'. Kenzie was wise enough to take heed and not smoke.

I think that is one of the reasons Bez is in there, a lot of kids watch BB, and he is a classic example, viewed 24/7, of why you should not take up drugs. If seeing him stops just a handful of kids taking them, he will have achieved a lot more than anyone else in there.

I have been very wary of the editing of BB, and found this little convo elsewhere, it confirms my own thoughts..............a lot!
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I noticed BB didn't show Brigitte and Bez talking about _him_ giving up drugs and Bez saying that the day he gives it up is the day he dies.
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I watched that. I was sure he was talking about life in general and walking out of the house. Brigitte said "Don't give up". That's when he said "The day I give up is the day I die". I didn't think it had anything to do with drugs.
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thats what i read from their chat aswell, he would not give up on life or big brother,
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Thats what I thought but they changed it for the highlights and made it sound like he meant drugs.

BB seriously want Brigitte to win. http://community.channel4.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I have been very wary of the editing of BB, and found this little convo elsewhere, it confirms my own thoughts..............a lot!

I noticed BB didn't show Brigitte and Bez talking about _him_ giving up drugs and Bez saying that the day he gives it up is the day he dies.

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I was disappointed about that particular moment between Bez and Bridget/Briggette/Bridgett/Bridgette 'cos I really thought Bez was going to cry. My upper teeth began resting on my lower lip at this point. That hadn't happened since I saw that heart-rending scene with Jackie all alone in her little bedroom staring at her door and listening to the others chortling behind it.

Bez is on a rollercoaster ride at the moment and I don't think he knows what to do with himself at all. He's just one of those people who can't settle for two minutes unless he's sleeping - which he also struggles to achieve (just when you think Bez the badger is in slumberland, up pops his head for a little scan of the bedroom....what is it that he sees?...Heffalumps and Woozles?? It's dark ffs!)

I'm actually amazed the others are paying scant attention to him after his outburst the other day, so they have to take some credit for that.

I still think he can hold out and win. I'd very much like him to.

Awwww Woodstock - you stole my thunder!! :angry:
....then my day has begun! :bye:

I'd be seriously miffed if a drug addict won BB. Yeah so it's not a "proper" drug, but it still alters mood, and obviously character - as clearly displayed by Bez now he's getting withdrawal symptoms.

It's like the Bez people have seen and supported isn't actually him at all, but the effect of the drugs, not his real personality. Surely we should be voting for the actual person, rather than the result of cannabis?

Would it be fair if the others HMs were always drunk? Would that be a true representation of their character? I'm sure we'd all be far more entertaining to watch if we were all permanently ****ed.

Pah.

I think we need to clear up a couple of things here!

Bez IS NOT under the influence of any type of drug as far as I can see - like BB are gonna let him bring his herbs in with him to smoke on national telly arent they...............NOT!

So for all of those of you that are a little confused, I thought I would post some information about Cannabis and its effects - it is VERY VERY rare for someone to become addicted to cannabis (a psychologial dependancy yes - but NOT a physical dependancy) - the addiction is usually to tobacco which is used to roll a splif! To my knowledge, there is ONE drug that is BOTH psychological AND physical and that it Heroin!

Most people mix cannabis up with tobacco and smoke it as a spliff or a joint. Some people put it in a pipe. Others make tea with it or stick it in food like cakes.


The effects of any drug have a lot to do with who the users are with, what mood they're in and how much of the drug they take. Cannabis is no exception.

Much like a cigarette, the effects are immediate and last from about an hour to a few hours. Smoking more will make the effects last longer obviously.
Smoking a spliff makes most people happy, relaxed and at peace with the world but the effects vary from person to person. Some people have one puff and feel sick. Others get the giggles until the muscles in their face hurt.
Cannabis is quite an introspective drug. Once stoned, users can find hidden depths in daytime television/ the most unlikely song lyrics.
It's a mild hallucinogen. Colours and sounds appear brighter and sharper.
It affects co-ordination. So it can make people a bit unsteady on their feet. Doing complicated things like operating machinery is not a good idea.
Some people use it to relieve muscle pain associated with illnesses like MS (Multiple Sclerosis).
Someone who's been smoking a lot will have bloodshot eyes, a dry mouth and may well have their head in the fridge. Hunger pangs are known as 'getting the munchies'.
There is a flip side:

Even hardcore smokers can get anxious, panicky and suspicious.
Cannabis screws with short-term memory.
Eating or drinking the drug delays the effects and can make them stronger and longer lasting.
There is a minimal risk of physical dependence. Psychological dependency occurs in about 10% of users.

Users are more likely to get addicted to nicotine if they roll their spliffs with tobacco. There are no physical withdrawal symptoms if you've only been using for a short while and there should be no problem stopping (unless you get addicted to the tobacco).

Most of the risks associated with cannabis are linked to regular, heavy use.

Smoking cannabis may be more harmful than smoking tobacco. Cannabis has a higher concentration of chemical 'nasties' that cause cancer.
Smoking anything can give you heart problems, bronchitis and cancer. Smoking it with tobacco can get you hooked on tobacco.
Cannabis can make asthma worse. And it's a bad idea with heart disease, high blood pressure or if you are at risk from strokes.
Regular, heavy use makes it harder to learn and concentrate. Being stoned all the time isn't going to win anyone 'Employee Of The Month'.
Frequent use of cannabis can cut a man's sperm count and suppress ovulation in women.
Some people begin to feel tired all the time and can't seem to get motivated.
Some research has shown that cannabis may worsen mental illnesses like schizophrenia. It may also slow down any recovery from these illnesses. If you've got a history of mental illness in the family you should think very carefully about getting stoned.
Cannabis can cause a range of mental health problems from short lived and more common problems such as anxiety and paranoid feelings, to less common difficulties with actual psychotic states that may require medical treatment.
These problems may fade away over several days after stopping using cannabis but occasionally may require a stay in hospital.
Smoking cannabis when pregnant may harm the baby. Babies tend to be lower in birth weight and to have developmental problems.
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Bez and Ozzie Osborne could probably have a decent conversation together, neither of them can speak!
Bez is o.k., he has gotten a bit ratty and miserable though!

everybody is out for themselves since John went!

Bez is o.k., he has gotten a bit ratty and miserable though!

everybody is out for themselves since John went!
Tell you what Bridge - I would be a complete SHE DEVIL if I had been left in there with THAT lot - what a vile, self obsessed lot they are!!!!

I think we need to clear up a couple of things here!

Bez IS NOT under the influence of any type of drug as far as I can see - like BB are gonna let him bring his herbs in with him to smoke on national telly arent they...............NOT!

So for all of those of you that are a little confused, I thought I would post some information about Cannabis and its effects - it is VERY VERY rare for someone to become addicted to cannabis (a psychologial dependancy yes - but NOT a physical dependancy) - the addiction is usually to tobacco which is used to roll a splif! To my knowledge, there is ONE drug that is BOTH psychological AND physical and that it Heroin! .....So why then would this be the case?

Drugs counsellor help for Bez

(http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds7484.html#)

Endemol have brought in a drugs counsellor fearing Bez is cracking up without his dope.

Happy Mondays star is suffering cannabis withdrawal, telling his housmates: “I miss my weed, it’s affecting my mind.”

Bez' bizzarre and moody behaviour has included losing his temper at housemates after being nominated, making rude gestures to camera and scribbling strange messages. And just last night Bez scaled the BB wall before being ordered back down by worried TV Endemol staff. He denied he was making a bid for freedom, telling Jeremy ""I was just being nosey. You know what I'm like when I'm on my own. I just start messing around."

A show insider revealed: “He is used to smoking every day, so stopping abruptly would have a big effect.”

The drugs counsellor will be on 24-hour standby so Bez can have access to help at any time.

to increase Viewers perhaps?!?!?!?!

Sorry to sound so cynical Floops and I dont mean to "glorify" drugs.....

I am a qualified drug counsellor, my specialist subject being Harm Reduction and Drug Awareness.....

Bez may have a psychological dependancy, and probably has many issues that are unresolved from the 1st time he did Detox - he was probably told to smoke weed while doing his Detox, many Detox Centres will recommend it believe it or not!

Not ALL drug users/addicts are the same, a pot head wont go out rob and beat your granny for a fix (he probably would be too busy at work to do so!!), whereas, a heroin or crack addict would!

Which is why I fight so hard to keep people informed, so that they can make their choices with the full facts - we are never going to stop people from using Drugs, so isnt it better to educate them in the FACTS?

Personally, I would need an effing SHEDFULL of weed to keep ME going in that house with the people who are left.......:wacko:

But by Bez saying that not having weed is affecting his mind, surely that means that using weed does alter his natural state, so we haven't been seeing the real Bez, more the happier enhanced version of Bez?

But by Bez saying that not having weed is affecting his mind, surely that means that using weed does alter his natural state, so we haven't been seeing the real Bez, more the happier enhanced version of Bez?
Ahhhhh haaaaa...I get ya! Hmmmmmm!!!!! :unsure:

Bez THINKS it is affecting his mind - as I said before it is psychological...........its not a physical dependancy........... so we are in fact seeing the REAL Bez!

but I would say, having read a bit more about Bez, that he is well and truly fecked in the head - from all the drug use in the past, along with other issues......

they do say that mentally, you stay at the age you are when you start using certain class A drugs (which explains all the 40 odd year olds I know who still carry on like teenagers!), also, the drugs will have "blotted out" Bez's issues, and now he isnt using they will become forefront in his thinking....................along wth the dreadful HM's he has been left with!

Which is why I think we (as a country) need to change the way we deal with drug addiction - its all very well getting them clean, we need to get to the root of the problem which caused the users to take the drugs in the 1st place and make the demons that torment them disappear!

I was disappointed about that particular moment between Bez and Bridget/Briggette/Bridgett/Bridgette 'cos I really thought Bez was going to cry. My upper teeth began resting on my lower lip at this point. That hadn't happened since I saw that heart-rending scene with Jackie all alone in her little bedroom staring at her door and listening to the others chortling behind it.One thing I thought was terrible about Brigggggittttte's "anti drugs talk" with Bez was that she started the conversation off by saying "first of all, get your teeth fixed" - I thought hmmmmm, so the cosmetic aspect of Bez's appearance is more important than giving him the benefit of your experience of rehab/alcohol/drugs etc? Typical Hollywood actress - obsessed with having big white nashers the size of tombstones.

Interesting to see your quote on Jackie S, alone in the bedroom, staring at her door and listening to Jeremy and Kenzie pishing themselves laughing about her. I went all lumpy throated. Little wonder that she came out of the bedroom the next morning and subjected the arseheads with a volley of bitchy remarks.

PS, does Bez EVER sleep? :blink:

Queenie! I am 100% behind all you posted re the drugs, I delved into this when my daughter started taking cannabis, and was very relieved when I found out more, and knew it was helping and not harming her. BTW, cannabis is the only drug she has ever used, she's not an addict per se!


I think Bez is doing very well considering, and he still has my vote, I think more because I actually understand where he's coming from. He is struggling, but he is still there when he could have just walked, I will continue to back him!

I do understand what you"re saying Queenie, but I'm not happy about a recognised drug user winning Big Brother - what message is that sending to young people? That being out of your box on drugs makes you popular and a "winner"?

I do understand what you"re saying Queenie, but I'm not happy about a recognised drug user winning Big Brother - what message is that sending to young people? That being out of your box on drugs makes you popular and a "winner"?
1. He's an Ex drug user
2. I am willing to bet you know several people who smoke splifs (the worst he is doing now), and you don't even know they are doing it.
3. On the contrary, I think he is sending the best possible message to kids...."look at me, this is what happens when you do coke and E's, and even when you quit you never get to being totally normal"


He has already stopped Kenzie from lighting up his (I assume) first cigar. All I hope is that he stays for the final 2. If he was so bad Floopy, and a bad image to kids he would never have got onto the programme, if they had of got that one wrong they would have been getting murdered by the media for it.

Sorry chaps I go for zero tolerance on this.

He is a sorry excuse for a man, someone who should not be put into the public eye [other than this is what drugs can do for you].

I am also extremely disappointed that BB would allow someone who has come from this culture on national 24/7 tv - unless they were trying to prove a point??

He should go and disappear into obscurity, with the help of the NHS and other agencies - which is, lets face it, the only help others like him get!

Sorry chaps I go for zero tolerance on this.

He is a sorry excuse for a man, someone who should not be put into the public eye [other than this is what drugs can do for you].

I am also extremely disappointed that BB would allow someone who has come from this culture on national 24/7 tv - unless they were trying to prove a point??

He should go and disappear into obscurity, with the help of the NHS and other agencies - which is, lets face it, the only help others like him get!
I couldn't agree with you more flip, he unpleasant viewing..its obvious now he was sulking because he had been nominated, now he's staying in he'll play the game.

Not nice, unpleasant, unstable, wobbly and wibbly.

wobbly and wibbly.
Sooooooo wobbly and wibbly - sooooooo unpleasant!

agreed gals, he makes my skin crawl

Oh..and when he just poured himself a glass of champers when Kenzie had explained it was just for those who took part in the task.

Nasty, nauseous, neurotic and narcotic.

I do understand what you"re saying Queenie, but I'm not happy about a recognised drug user winning Big Brother - what message is that sending to young people? That being out of your box on drugs makes you popular and a "winner"?
Unfortunately from the cheering and applause he got on going into the house by saying he was going to miss his weed the most - yeh I think young people have got that message ... and it's usually those who are old enough to know better that like to give off the vibe of "drugs are cool".

Oh..and when he just poured himself a glass of champers when Kenzie had explained it was just for those who took part in the task.

Nasty, nauseous, neurotic and narcotic.
I am perhaps the mildest mannered person I know, despite being hard as wrought iron nails - don't mess with Flip - oooooh 'scuse me whilst I relax and eat a marshmallow - but if he had done that in my presence I doubt I would have punched the wild man of Happy Monday Rock - but yeee gads I would have had more than a mouthful to say to him.

[In fact, to the detriment of the others I would have nicked the bottle and run to the loo and drank the lot!!!]

As much as I would have wanted too I doubt I would but I really would have had to have been a bit more vocal than the hm's - he is a prize 100% berk, with bells and tassles!!

If he was so bad Floopy, and a bad image to kids he would never have got onto the programme, if they had of got that one wrong they would have been getting murdered by the media for it.
Well funny you should mention that, but...


It has become increasingly apparent over recent days that Bez is suffering from withdrawal symptoms from cannabis. Having openly admitted that he is a chronic user of the weed, smoking it every day at home, the abrupt loss of his supply has become evident in his altered behaviour.

Things have become so concerning that Big Brother producers have taken expert advise and a Drugs Counsellor is now on hand 24 hours a day to speak to Bez.

The issue has also been picked up on by the national tabloids, some of which have been calling for the housemate to be arrested for use of the illegal substance after he leaves the show.

Oh that is where the money goes??? Drugs counsellors being paid BB salaries!! Oh yeah - of course, he is famous afterall!

It's not the drugs issue that worries me so much, in fact, as someone has already said, he's more of an advert for not doing it if that is what you end up like, it's his reaction to alcohol that worries me.

Now don't get me wrong, I like a drink & probably drink more than the 'experts' say I should but my god, he was DESPERATE for some booze when he didn't go & I've just watched it on C4 tonight. There was a bottle of beer left in the fridge tonight & he was gagging for it............he just couldn't settle with that bottle of beer not drunk.

I have very little experience of pot so can't really comment with any kind of authority but having lived with an alcoholic father for a long time, I would be a damn sight more worried about the long term effects of that than the pot.

I do understand what you"re saying Queenie, but I'm not happy about a recognised drug user winning Big Brother - what message is that sending to young people? That being out of your box on drugs makes you popular and a "winner"?I know exactly where you are coming from Floops, I dont know the answers, honest I dont, it does my head in - the whole Drug Issue and the way this Country handles it does!!! But then you only have to look at the music industry to see how Drugs are glorified for young people - D12's Purple Pills is all about E's, most Hip Hop and Rap Artists rap/sing about smoking pot, doing pills and taking coke.......then you have the "Prog Rock" bands of the 60's and 70's........:unsure:

I am a firm believer in legalising the lot - the Government would then tax them, so rather that orgainised crime reaping the benefits WE would, it would also reduce the crime rates nationwide by cutting out Organised Crime and Gang Culture.........

I watched a programme called Drugland which was a BBC Documentary that was on a couple of weeks ago - its 3 programmes that explains the 3 "different" levels of drugs and their users, from the pot heads and coke heads - who work all week in responsible jobs and can afford their habit and lifestyle, and whose dealers will only sell to people they know and kids dont even feature............................to the crack and smack heads who would rob their granny to pay for their fix, and who would sell the filth to kids to make a few quid.....

Im not saying its right - but we dont seem to be able to police it effectively at the moment so lets take it out of the control of the gangs/cartels and rather than us taxpaying, law abiding, honest and hardworking citizens being persecuted and robbed by these people, let us reap the benefit!!! There is obviously a lot of money to be made - as I know of at least 1 drug dealer who drives around in a brand spanking new Aston Martin :ranting:

In the last 30 years drug usage in the UK has spiralled out of control, we aint never going to be able to stop it IMHO, therefore lets USE it to OUR advantage!!!

And finally BACK ON TOPIC!!!!

I still dont think that Bez is withdrawing from Cannabis.......from the state of him last night, IMHO he is withdrawing from something harder.......the cynic in me is saying that BB are quoting it as Cannabis, for fear of reprisals, my gut instinct tells me there is more to it than a bit of weed...... Mr Q and I actually discussed what Bez may have "crutched" to enter the BB house with as he walked through the door to the BB House......

editied to say.....

After reading Jaycee's post, yep, I think you may have hit the nail on the head there chick........

So for all of those of you that are a little confused, I thought I would post some information about Cannabis and its effects - it is VERY VERY rare for someone to become addicted to cannabis (a psychologial dependancy yes - but NOT a physical dependancy)

I know I'm going back off topic here but Queenie I'd like to ask you something.

YOu say that there is rarely a physical dependency (addiction) to cannabis, but isn't a psychological dependency much the same thing inasmuch as it is another kind of addiction?

At one time in my life I smoked cannabis on and off, over a couple of years and in my experience it produced a pleasant state that I would call seductive, one that I wished to return to, so you could say it was a form of addiction.

If as you have said you use it yourself on a regular basis, and would be crawling up the wall if you had to go in the BB house without it, that suggests to me that there is some kind of addiction going on - if not why do you need to smoke it regularly?

I'm still in 2 minds about Bez. He scares me a bit as he seems unstable and I think he scares the housemates a bit too. None of them seem to want to be left alone with him. Take last night when as soon as Lisa said she was going to bed, Caprice scarpered too.

But I also feel quite sorry for him because he seems a bit of a lost soul. I can't forget how nice of him it was to say he didn't like people being picked on when they were all having a go at Jackie. he has got some nice qualities.

I felt sorry for him when he was telling Caprice that he just wanted a cuddle and she just sat there fiddling with her hair.

But about the Champagne business? I thought they were all a bit pathetic not wanting to let him have any. One minute they're saying 'we've got to stick together' etc etc and the next they want him to be the only one who doesn't have Champagne. Another example of BB being a bully? And anyway, what do they think is going to happen if they let him have a drink? It's only a game and should be fun. They should've been laughing and joking and saying 'up yours BB'.

I'm in 2 minds about him too.

Essentially, he seems like a nice bloke. Simple, a bit drug addled, but with his priorities in the right place. He's a "salt of the earth" type of bloke - he likes fair play, is prepared to fight injustice (e.g. sticking up for Jackie) and there's no front to him. What you see is what you get.

But, for all that, I agree with the people who say he seems a bit scarey. He looks weird and can be volatile and unpredictable.

However, I do NOT agree with anyone who says that he shouldn't win purely because he had/has a drug problem. Being addicted to anything does not, in itself, make a person bad. By that reasoning, you might as well also suggest that a SMOKER shouldn't win or be in the house. Smokers are ruining their health/lives by being addicted to a drug. They are also poor role models and likely to get volatile if denied nicotine. E.g. they could be criticised for the same reasons as Bez, so I don't see those arguments stacking up! Seriously, I see little difference between the two.

If Bez was off robbing old ladies or dealing to kids to fund his addiction then yes, I'd agree that he shouldn't win on the basis that he has hurt other people criminally to fund his addiction and that is bad. But just by being addicted to a substance, he is hurting no-one but himself. Frankly he is more to be pitied than despised. In fact, he has spoken out against drugs on the programme - I notice that none of the smokers have spoken out against the insidiousness of cigarettes.

As I said earlier, it does not make him a bad person - just a pathetic one! He shouldn't be villified and pillioried for it.

I can understand that he is not everyone's cup of tea (he is a bit weird), but I can't understand why people would want to ban him/deny him the opportunity of winning of the basis of what is essentially a life-ruining and debilitating weakness (which is, of course, what EVERY addiction is).

Karen - you have put that really well!

Personally I think Bez has more issues with booze than ganja........ I have never seen anyone get grumpy, moody, snappy when giving up the weed (and I have many friends that have and I did myself for 7 years) - I have seen it with booze and class A drugs though!

I think that Bez may have used ganja to help him come of the other stuff, so in effect, its not the ganja that he is addicted to, he subsituted his addictions with ganja, therefore, now he hasnt got the ganja, the problem represents itself quite clearly!

If it came to it, I would prefer my step kids to smoke weed than drink alcohol - Im sure there will be loads of you that dont agree with that statement, but I'll tell you one thing, you dont get pot heads chucking up in the street, fighting, being abusive, and generally being an anti social muppet because he cant hold his beer do you?!?!!?!?!

I know I'm going back off topic here but Queenie I'd like to ask you something.

YOu say that there is rarely a physical dependency (addiction) to cannabis, but isn't a psychological dependency much the same thing inasmuch as it is another kind of addiction?

At one time in my life I smoked cannabis on and off, over a couple of years and in my experience it produced a pleasant state that I would call seductive, one that I wished to return to, so you could say it was a form of addiction.

If as you have said you use it yourself on a regular basis, and would be crawling up the wall if you had to go in the BB house without it, that suggests to me that there is some kind of addiction going on - if not why do you need to smoke it regularly?It is a psychological dependancy, and yep you are right (as usual!!!! :laugh: ) it is pretty much the same thing......

As for me in the BB House, yes I would need a smoke to cope with that lot, it chills me out, I used to be a bad tempered firey ******, but this helps keep me calm and nice - so for all concerned its a good thing.....Ask my Mum!!!! HOWEVER, I wouldnt put myself in the position of being cooped up for 18 days with the likes of them, for public viewing 24/7.....NO WAY.....EVER!!!!

See my previous post about Bez - I think there is more to it than meets the eye, and I dont think its ganja myself!.......Mr Q and I commented when he entered the house - "wonder what he has "plugged" to take in with him"..........

I totally agree with you both. I mean, has Bez actually harmed anyone in there? Yes, he's got short tempered, but tell me anyone in there who hasn't? He has been the least abusive of them all, the girls are in no danger from him, he does need a drink mind, and yes, that could be a problem for him. I will stick by him, I think he is still doing best of them all, and under really trying circumstances.

He has already stopped Kenzie from lighting up his (I assume) first cigar. All I hope is that he stays for the final 2. If he was so bad Floopy, and a bad image to kids he would never have got onto the programme, if they had of got that one wrong they would have been getting murdered by the media for it.

I was watching the live feed the night that Kenzie wanted to try a cigar. Brigitte and Bez seemed happy to let him try it, but when Brigitte went and got the cigar she same back and said that 'they' (the ones in the bedroom - Caprice and Lisa I presume, but it could have been John and Jeremy too) had said that he shouldn't try it. It was then that Bez said that he wasn't bothered, but that Kenzie probably shouldn't try it - he wasn't the one that stopped Kenzie from smoking though.

Well I dont think that having Bez in the BB House "glorifies" drugs in any way. To me he is a walking anti-drugs/alcohol advert. The guy has clearly got brain damage from some sort of substance abuse - nuthin cool about rolling your head about/having big starey scary eyes or talking total ****** all the time .... :wacko:

nuthin cool about rolling your head about or talking total ****** all the time .... :wacko:

Ooops cat,, thats us out for the meet then :wacko: :laugh:

I am afraid I would have to punch Bez if I was locked up with him.

Did you get the other day when he moaning about cigarette smokers being "addicts" and not wanting to be around people who needed a fix? Er, hello????

I'd be seriously miffed if a drug addict won BB. Yeah so it's not a "proper" drug, but it still alters mood, and obviously character - as clearly displayed by Bez now he's getting withdrawal symptoms.

It's like the Bez people have seen and supported isn't actually him at all, but the effect of the drugs, not his real personality. Surely we should be voting for the actual person, rather than the result of cannabis?

Would it be fair if the others HMs were always drunk? Would that be a true representation of their character? I'm sure we'd all be far more entertaining to watch if we were all permanently ****ed.


Bez was selected for the CBB house on the basis of what he is and represents. Sounds like you're asking him to alter his persona Floop....

Bez and Ozzie Osborne could probably have a decent conversation together, neither of them can speak!



how about Bez, Ozzie Osborne (not a manc, granted), Johnny Vegas, and a couple of other "mancs" taken randonly from the street and perhaps even "Ludo" (from the film Labyrinth)thrown in for good measure - all participating in an evening of scintillating conversation??

to increase Viewers perhaps?!?!?!?!

Sorry to sound so cynical Floops and I dont mean to "glorify" drugs.....

I am a qualified drug counsellor, my specialist subject being Harm Reduction and Drug Awareness.....


I'd quit while your still not ahead Floops - she'll eat you for breakfast.....

how about Bez, Ozzie Osborne (not a manc, granted), Johnny Vegas, and a couple of other "mancs" taken randonly from the street and perhaps even "Ludo" (from the film Labyrinth)thrown in for good measure - all participating in an evening of scintillating conversation?? Awww I love Johnny Vegas - he is so sweet !

I reckon you should add Kenny Dalglish (incoherent) and Vicky Pollard from Little Britain to that mix, Id pay good money to listen to that convo ! :laugh:

Going back to Bez, does anyone know if he is married or separated ? He talks about his kids etc, but I havent heard much about his partner.

Little wonder that she (Jackie) came out of the bedroom the next morning and subjected the arseheads with a volley of bitchy remarks.

PS, does Bez EVER sleep? :blink:

I thought she let them off rather lightly. She must endure this sort of thing on a daily basis; I just can't understand why they do these things to their faces (almost, but not quite a poem)....why?????

No, I'm not sure Bez does sleep. Even when you think he is asleep, and you see him tucked up with the cover over his head, I'm still timing him from the last point that he moves to the next (they say seven minutes is all it takes) and just when you think he's made it, up pops the head, he scans the room looking for his twilight friends the "Heffalumps and Woozles" and when he realizes they haven't come out to play on this particular occasion, he bobs under the cover once more......and I have to begin timing all over again....

Awww I love Johnny Vegas - he is so sweet !

Vicky Pollard from Little Britain


Vicky Pollard!....now that IS incoherent!! (fantastic character too) And before anyone shouts "OFF TOPIC!".....aha....it's not - 'cos...the geezer who plays the Pollard character used to star on Vic Reeves' panel show as one "George Dawes" And of course it was Vic Reeves who made a brief appearance in the jungle on "I'm a Celebrity..." which in turn, is a reality show....so there is your connection. :unsure:

Vicky Pollard!....now that IS incoherent!! (fantastic character too) And before anyone shouts "OFF TOPIC!".....aha....it's not - 'cos...the geezer who plays the Pollard character used to star on Vic Reeves' panel show as one "George Dawes" And of course it was Vic Reeves who made a brief appearance in the jungle on "I'm a Celebrity..." which in turn, is a reality show....so there is your connection. :unsure:
Yer rambling again Pet! :laugh:

sorry excuse for a man

I am also extremely disappointed that BB would allow someone who has come from this culture on national 24/7 tv

Do you mean the "sorry excuse for a man" who had the nerve/bottle to stand up and rightly defend someone against 5-6 others??

What you have in the CBB house is a cross-section of our society (minus the two Yanks). I could understand it if the Queen had invited Bez to Buckingham Palace for a "right royal" dinner, preceded, or followed (not sure of the order in which they do these things there) by a ceremony initiating his knighthood, but ffs it's a virtually a prison environment at the compound - if anyone deserves to be there, on account of their "culture/lifestyle" then surely it is Bez.

When you step off your high horse try not to step in the crap it just took.....

Yer rambling again Pet! :laugh:

:sad: ...so I am. Well, footie's on the box now so you can all have your forum back. Sorry again.

Don't worry, Exeter won't know one end of the pitch from the other!:unsure:

I'm going for the Grecian's.
Woo woo


Family born and bred Manchester, all City supporters....

Can that man never keep his mouth closed? :sick: :angry:

For me Bez came out with the funniest comment of the whole show so far.
Bridget had made pasta with brocolli and Bez was saying how nice it was and that he'd never had brocolli with pasta before and he said something long the lines of
'It made brocolli a pleasure'

The way he said it was SO funny - it made all the other housemates laugh too. I was sure it would get on the main show, but it didn't.

I think that our Bez is a little intimidated and perhaps a little bit in awe of the others - he is SO different to them, he is far more grounded......

therefore, he doesnt have the confidence to say so much, he has made me chuckle a good few times bless him - more when John was still in the house - they both appear to me to have "self esteem issues" which is a shame as I think they are both good people underneath, and perhaps come across as brash in their effort to cover up their shyness..................... a bit like myself :laugh:

Bez is flipping mental, he is definately not all there upstairs, but he is endearing and he did stick up for Jackie when no one else did.

Stupid is as stupid does - Forrest Gump. :blink:

He and John have been the two who have made my emotions rock the most, from laughter, to revulsion, and even to utter sadness. The rest are so boring it's a pain.

'It made brocolli a pleasure'

The way he said it was SO funny

He may have the least amount of brain cells remaining out of the group, yet he has some wonderful turns of phrase. He's a watchable character - that's all that matters to us viewers.

He and John have been the two who have made my emotions rock the most. The rest are so boring it's a pain.

...touche (two-shay)

I felt sorry for him when he was telling Caprice that he just wanted a cuddle and she just sat there fiddling with her hair.

Unbelievable wasn't it! Ok, he's a bit spotty and a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic, but it wouldn't have been that awful to have just reached over and given the guy a hug. Just before he said it, I remember thinking that's exactly what he needed - scary or what.

He seems to be the most 'normal' one in there at the moment. I don't know whether he could play the game even if he tried, but if he is, he's doing a good job.

You know there is something I want to have a good look at about Bez, and that is what he looked like when he went into the house compared with what he looks like now.


I say this because they have all been working out a lot, and using the sauna to 'detox', he has also been taking the girls advice about his skin. I don't know if he's just growing on me and I am getting more used to the look of him, but I swear he's looking a lot better now!

What say you?

Unbelievable wasn't it! Ok, he's a bit spotty and a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic, but it wouldn't have been that awful to have just reached over and given the guy a hug.

i know, i sat there thinking you B*tch, give him a hug! i did feel really sorry for Bez at that moment, the look on her face was like "Eww i might be contaminated if i hug him". Caprice has to go! she is too self-centred along with Jeremy. i hope they both go very soon. :bye:

I say this because they have all been working out a lot, and using the sauna to 'detox', he has also been taking the girls advice about his skin. I don't know if he's just growing on me and I am getting more used to the look of him, but I swear he's looking a lot better now!

What say you?

Spooky, Eternity! I said this just last night when I was watching the programme. I thought he was looking a lot healthier. His skin doesn't seem as sallow as it did at the start.

i know, i sat there thinking you B*tch, give him a hug! i did feel really sorry for Bez at that moment, the look on her face was like "Eww i might be contaminated if i hug him". Caprice has to go! she is too self-centred along with Jeremy. i hope they both go very soon. :bye:
I didnt see this - for 3 nights on the trot Mr Q's mate has arrived just as we have been settling down as couch potatoes :angry: much to my disgust - at least my mates settle down and watch it with us :laugh: .........but after reading what you guys have posted the words that sprang to mind about Caprice and Jezza are.....

SHALLOW
JUDGEMENTAL
ARTIFICIAL
SELFISH/SELFCENTERED
BIGOTS

Poor old Bez, I'd have given him a big hug bless him......the only one I would draw the line at is John, but thats cos he is a self confirmed perv (bit like myself) and I wouldnt want him getting lost in my "cleverage" as you would never know what he might deposit there :sick: :laugh:

and I wouldnt want him getting lost in my "cleverage" as you would never know what he might deposit there :sick: :laugh:
Good Lord Woman!!! :ohmy: :shock: How big is your 'cleverage' - I can only suppose you meant that John may use leverage to get down your cleavage!!:wink2:

i know, i sat there thinking you B*tch, give him a hug! i did feel really sorry for Bez at that moment, the look on her face was like "Eww i might be contaminated if i hug him". Caprice has to go! she is too self-centred along with Jeremy. i hope they both go very soon. :bye:
to be fair, maybe Caprice didn't know what an "oog" was

Good Lord Woman!!! :ohmy: :shock: How big is your 'cleverage' - I can only suppose you meant that John may use leverage to get down your cleavage!!:wink2:
Yukkkkkkk....the mental picture is NOT nice!!!!!! As for how big, well lets say im more Brige than Caprice :laugh:

I found this written on another site, and I couldn't have worded it better myself....................



It seems a lot of people judge Bez on the way he looks or have a preconception toward him for being a drug user. Yes he has used drugs but he shows decent values in other areas such as having respect for his elders, none of the other HMs seem to have any respect for anyone. As for his looks and speech whilst the drugs he used in the past may not have helped he has also been in a few motorcycle accidents. After a serious one he caught the MRSA bug while in hospital and had to be cut open several times due to the bug attacking his major organs and was in there for 4 months. He still has problems and suffers pain. I dont blame him for using ganja, many sufferers of various illnesses use it to get relief.

Unfortunately there will always be people who have inflexible attitudes and will judge by appearance.

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Just for the record, my daughter, with her doctors blessing, takes Ganja for pain relief, it's the only thing that has worked, and she will now be on it for life.
Her Doc is one for legalising it, many ME sufferers find it's the only relief they can get these days, and grow their own so they don't have to go to illegal sources to get it.

Here here!!! Well done Eternity - I felt that Bez was getting too much stick to be honest.....and I also felt he was being judged as a "drug fiend" just because he has admitted smoking pot!!!


GO BEZ!!

I hope he wins love him.....he has far more morals and standards than the rest of the self centered, 2 faced, feckwits in there!!!!!

. As for his looks and speech whilst the drugs he used in the past may not have helped he has also been in a few motorcycle accidents. .Bloody hell, a "few" motorcycle accidents? After the second, did he not think "yer know, riding these bikes might not be a good idea...." :unsure:

Brigitte's counselling sessions annoy me with Bez. I just wish he would tell her to eff off and that if he wanted counselling or advice, as an adult, he would ask her for it. Her "counselling" sometimes turns into an all out nasty, insensitive attack and it annoys me.

Out of all of them, I believe Bez is being the most honest and showing us his true personality, warts an all.
I still think that John McCririck was trying too hard to be more obnoxious than he really is in order to win his bet.
Jeremy and Caprice seem to be "performing" all the time and I doubt we have seen anything of their true personalities.

Bez could very well be the dark horse in this programme .... I just praaayyyyyy he stays in longer than Jeremy, if only to see Jeremy's face drop when he realises we like Bez more than him ! And that all the "groundwork" to win that he says he has done (before hastily correcting himself) hasnt worked :laugh:

Brigitte's counselling sessions annoy me with Bez. I just wish he would tell her to eff off and that if he wanted counselling or advice, as an adult, he would ask her for it. Her "counselling" sometimes turns into an all out nasty, insensitive attack and it annoys me.


I just said that same thing in the Brigitte thread! To me it seems like she's trying to highlight his bad points to the viewers

It seems a lot of people judge Bez on the way he looks or have a preconception toward him for being a drug user.
Bez got about 63% of the vote (when he was up against John) so i think it shows that a lot of people (well BB viewers) quite rate the little rascal actually!



BEZ TO WIN!

Caprice and Jezza are.....

SHALLOW
JUDGEMENTAL
ARTIFICIAL
SELFISH/SELFCENTERED
BIGOTS

....you missed out "LOVERS"

WHY OH WHY OH WHY...does every mention Bez and drugs in the same sentance all the time???

I really don't care what he has done, dabbled and dipped in. I just judge the man I see before me...and I think he would appreciate that.

What he wouldn't appreciate is that the man before me is a right ****.

"yer know, riding these bikes might not be a good idea...." :unsure:

Her "counselling" sometimes turns into an all out nasty, insensitive attack and it annoys me.


It's definitely "friendly" provocation. I think she's waiting for him to snap and once more expose the nasty streak in his personality before the viewing masses - thus handing over to her all (or at least a few of) the aces. Once allies, I think they're now truly starting to play "the game"

Those actors/actresses did not get where they arrived at by being gullable McFly's They'll use all of their (and I'm going to invent a word here) deviosity to get where they want to be. Bez is just "mind-dancing" his way through the show and not giving too much of a ****** about the "Waddington's" aspect. That's the Ace up his sleeve.

GO ON BEZ!!

I really, really laughed my socks off last night when Bez and Brig were in the shower room preparing for bed.


Bez had showered and picked up dry knicks to take into the loo to change in privacy. Brig got into the shower and stripped right off, and all the time she was in the shower Bez stayed in the loo cubicle. The shower stopped and Bez knocked to see if was OK for him to come out, she yelled it was "OK Babe"

Then she said she was sorry for stripping off, but she couldn't be doing with not getting a proper shower. He replied "It's OK, don't bother me" in a real couldn't care less attitude. Made her blink!

I wonder if she would felt as safe with the two boy-cubs in the shower room?

GO ON BEZ!!

Right out that piggin door.....

Bez's odds are shortening by the day, he has a real chance of winning now ...

Well, I've had a little wager at 11/2 on Bez. Not brilliant oddss I know, but every time I thought about it prior to that, it was in the middle of an eviction and the bookies weren't taking bets, then I forgot about it to the next day and the whole process would start again. So I now have two reasons for wanting Bez to win, apart from the purely personal reason of liking him more than the others.

I respect your POV Cat. You see one thing I see another, but I agree about the drugs thing. Each one of the housemates are who they as a result of what they have experienced whether it be good or bad.

I don't know if anyone remembers Bridgett on the Frank Skinner show when she came on completely plastered and incoherent. There was mention of her being an alcoholic at the time. Maybe she was, maybe she wasn't - it never interested me enough to find out, but 'celebrities' do get exposed to a lot of temptations which might otherwise be unobtainable or unaffordable to your average Joe, and it would take a strong will to brush them all aside. I don't suppose any of them are whiter than white. It's just that their addiction to fame and fortune is less interesting as far as the media is concerned, than an addiction to drugs.

I am playing at being an insomniac - again! Anyone know how to close down an overactive brain that kicks in at bedtime - please???


I have been watching Brig and Bez talking about anything and everything. And I confess to being astounded at how knowledgable Bez really is, one thing he 'aint is thick! He is well read, and get past the speech and bouncing head and you will find a very clued up bloke in there with a lot of compassion.

Maybe it's because I do watch the late night live feeds that I have got to like this man. He is open to any discussion with Brig, be it his life, his kids (he's passionate about them), or world affairs. I see, I think, more the real Bez, the serious side, and I KNOW he's just a nice bloke who sadly looks odd at times.

dear lord you guys are so enamoured by bez that you will twist anything in his favour!!!

my dislike for bez is not the fact that he is a druggie/ex-druggie/pot only druggie or whatever, it is because i think he is a bit of a dick. he threw a tantrum coz he was nominated, bit childish. and respecting the elderley isnt a reason to like him. i personally respect is earned and just coz your old doesnt mean u automatically get respect. john can be classed as elderley too coz isnt he past 60? and i didnt see any of you blasting the others for not giving him respect coz hes like well old. i personally think some of you are twisting things and being a bit over analytical when u are saying the rest are playing the game so much (ie the briggitte giving bez advice bit). maybe brigitte was looking out for bez, coz she is older and has more experience than him.

on a moral note and coming back to the drugs thing, i really dont think bez should win for the fact that he is an ex/still is/who knows druggie. that is not a good role model for the children today. how would u bez lovers like it if your children or children u know thought its cool to take drugs coz bez did it and he's came out fine and won bb and it wont harm me coz he did it and survived?

I am playing at being an insomniac - again! Anyone know how to close down an overactive brain that kicks in at bedtime - please???


I have been watching Brig and Bez talking about anything and everything. And I confess to being astounded at how knowledgable Bez really is, one thing he 'aint is thick! He is well read, and get past the speech and bouncing head and you will find a very clued up bloke in there with a lot of compassion.

Maybe it's because I do watch the late night live feeds that I have got to like this man. He is open to any discussion with Brig, be it his life, his kids (he's passionate about them), or world affairs. I see, I think, more the real Bez, the serious side, and I KNOW he's just a nice bloke who sadly looks odd at times. I agree Eternity. I found that the more he relaxed last night, the more his speech flowed and the more Brigitte allowed him to speak. He usually is so self conscious and nervous that he finds it hard to string a sentence together and more pushy people like Lisa used to talk over him. Last nights chat with Brigitte (once she got over the constant fascination with his teeth - give it a bloody rest Brig!), was fascinating.

maybe brigitte was looking out for bez, coz she is older and has more experience than him. "kookycat"

Actually, Bez is 40 and Brigitte is 41

ok i thought she was 60ish. but jeeso, maybe she was just being nice. can other people other than bez not be nice?