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I know we already had a thread for this but i think it was on the old board.
I bought this today because it's all i've heard people talking about and wanted to see what all the fuss was about.
Well, since I got home today Ive not been able to put it down! Thouroughly enjoying it!
So, who's read it here and what did you think? (and please, no spoilers - at least until Ive finished it!)
Spooky 01-02-2005, 08:21 AM The butler did it :wacko:
My boss has just offered to lend me it!!!!
There is a programme on Channel 4 at 9pm Thursday called "The Real Da Vinci Code" presented by Tony "Baldrick" Robinson which I am looking forward to as well!
And without causing any offence or upset - how come this and "Holy Blood Holy Grail" are dismissed as there is no real proof, yet the world over, people accept Christianity and the Bible as fact.........:unsure:
Andrea 01-02-2005, 09:09 AM I'm really looking forward to that program on Channel 4 with Tony Robinson.
And apparently "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" authors are sueing Dan Brown for using all his ideas.
I'm really looking forward to that program on Channel 4 with Tony Robinson.
And apparently "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" authors are sueing Dan Brown for using all his ideas.
I have been struggling through Holy Blood Holy Grail for a couple of years now - I need Encarta running when I read it :unsure: :laugh: and I must admit, when I read bits about Da Vinci Code, I did think "this all sounds familiar".........
I watched a programme last week called Holy Grail on Sky, and a couple of the authors of HBHG were interviewed.............apparently the authors made a couple of documentaries about it back in the 70's and 80's and they were dismissed by the Catholic Church........which of course they would have to - after all, it basically re writes history and blows the whole Christianity theroy right out of the window!
I am more inclined to believe these records of events than the Bible myself!
Bella 01-02-2005, 12:28 PM There was a piece in my local paper about this as they are going to make a film based on the Da Vinci Code. Is there a mention of the Rosslyn Chapel in the book? It said something that they would not be using it in the film but making a replica of it. The Rosslyn Chapel is somewhere I have never been but I know that loads of tourists go there, maybe this year I will make an effort to go out and see what the hype is, as it is only about a 20/30 minute drive from me.
Andrea 01-02-2005, 03:50 PM yeh Bella, the Rosslyn chapel is in the book
Whenever my mum and dad go up to Edinburgh, they always visit the Rosslyn chapel, my dads a mason and there is alot of symbology in the chapel apparently.
Bella 01-02-2005, 04:22 PM Thanks Andrea. My mother in law has been a few times as when she has guests they always want to go there. Maybe I will read the book first then pay a visit.
jaycee 01-02-2005, 09:22 PM I think the Da Vinci Code is the best book I have ever read & I'm really looking forward to the program on Thursday.
I've also heard that there is a book available, don't know where from, which lets you know which bits of the book are true & which are fiction. I don't know how it substantiates what it says is true though.
I saw a trailer for the programme for this tonight [for Thursday] and it said if the Da Vinci Code is true - then Christians throughout the world have ben living a lie since the birth of Christianity.
This is an amazing suggestion and thoroughly worth watching to see the validity of such a claim.
And I am going to get Mr F to get me the Da Vinci code book off ebay - and Bella - good lord woman Go see Rosslyn Chapel. I have to admit to being utterly ignorant - I have never heard of it - but it sounds like it is important, and next time I am up your way wee lassie I will attempt a visit.
I read this a few months ago (infact was half way thru when we moved forums and was dissapointed to lose that humungus thread we had there).
Being blindly forse fed with the Catholic faith since I was born it came as a total shocker to me; I was spell bound by it....kept asking Mr Cat (who had read it first)...could this be true!! Is that true!! Got my art books out to study.....The Last Supper will never look the same again ..went on the net to find out more..
Its a really good read
PS Ditched the Catholic faith when I was sixteen and discovered boys, sex, alcohol etc.
I think the Da Vinci Code is the best book I have ever read & I'm really looking forward to the program on Thursday.
I've also heard that there is a book available, don't know where from, which lets you know which bits of the book are true & which are fiction. I don't know how it substantiates what it says is true though.
try Holy Blood Holy Grail Jaycee - you could probably pick a copy up at the library or on amazon........
I read this a few months ago (infact was half way thru when we moved forums and was dissapointed to lose that humungus thread we had there).
Being blindly forse fed with the Catholic faith since I was born it came as a total shocker to me; I was spell bound by it....kept asking Mr Cat (who had read it first)...could this be true!! Is that true!! Got my art books out to study.....The Last Supper will never look the same again ..went on the net to find out more..
Its a really good read
PS Ditched the Catholic faith when I was sixteen and discovered boys, sex, alcohol etc.
Bit like myself Cat - although I got an extra 2 years on yours - I was forced till I was 18!!!!!! But ye gawds I have made up for it since :ohmy: :wink2:
What amazes me in all of this, is that the Da Vinci Code, Holy Blood Holy Grail, and even the stories of King Arthur are dismissed as "myth" and "fantasy" as there is "no proof" - WHERE is the proof that the Bible is TRUE???
Where is the PROOF that there was a garden of Eden and we started from Adam and Eve????
Where is the PROOF that there was a Virgin Birth which resulted in Jesus?
Im NOT saying Jesus didnt exist, Im not saying that certain stories in the Bible didnt happen......I just feel that much of the Bible HAS to be "folk tales" and "folk law", which was invented by MAN to "control the masses" once man settled down into communities, after spending thousands of years as nomads......
.....I just feel that much of the Bible HAS to be "folk tales" and "folk law", which was invented by MAN to "control the masses" once man settled down into communities, after spending thousands of years as nomads......
Men ..TSK!!!
I watched this with interest, and can understand why the historians dismissed many of the aspects of the Holy Grail, but didn't I go and fall asleep at the bit about Mary Magdelene. Which IMO is the most reasonable theory.
I don't see why Jesus could not have taken a wife and borne a child. I cannot see why this would undermine the Christian Faith?? But as I was asleep I missed it!!
I watched this with interest, and can understand why the historians dismissed many of the aspects of the Holy Grail, but didn't I go and fall asleep at the bit about Mary Magdelene. Which IMO is the most reasonable theory.
I don't see why Jesus could not have taken a wife and borne a child. I cannot see why this would undermine the Christian Faith?? But as I was asleep I missed it!!this was the bit I was waiting for too Flippy...I managed to keep my eyes open though!!!
As for it undermining the Christian Faith - I would re-phrase that to undermining the ROMAN CATHOLIC FAITH......which, when you think about it is where Christianity started - it was old Henry that invented the Church of England - when he didnt like the Roman Catholic Rules remember.....and where it is still run by men- CELIBATE men, who dont know a jot about sexual relationships, being a parent, or even being a "normal person", all in a shroud of secrecy within its walled city......
the cynic in me tells me there is more to Mary Magdelane and Jesus than meets the eye, and the thought of Jesus being a "normal person" which by these accounts he was, makes me like him a whole lot more - NOT that I am about to convert peeps, that wont ever happen, but I doubt we would EVER find out the truth because if the truth DID out there would be MASS HYSTERIA.....so much for controlling the masses then hey?!?!?!?
At the end of the day, we all believe what we are told by the powers at the top - the very rich, very comfortable, very out of touch with the rest of society powers that be!
edited oops forgot to add........... the painting of the Last Supper - that IS a woman, no WAY is it a man, John the Baptiste my eye!!!!!
Andrea 04-02-2005, 09:17 AM I feel the program didn't go into enough detail about the Mary Magdelene side of things.
I think there should be another whole program dedicated to her.
I feel the program didn't go into enough detail about the Mary Magdelene side of things.
I think there should be another whole program dedicated to her.
I totally agree Andrea........but I guess Tony was probably worried that he would end up with a horses head in his bed!!!!!!!!!
Andrea 04-02-2005, 09:33 AM I went to the chat room after the program where the producer was talking. And he said they had about 48 hrs of footage to cut down to a two hour program.
What I did find funny was when Tony Robinson was at Rosslyn Chapel, he soooooo wanted to get his trowel out and start digging:laugh:
mikado 04-02-2005, 10:43 AM That was an interesting programme! I missed the first half, but caught the second half. It seems like the theories covered in the "Da Vinci Code" book are pretty much the same as those in "Holy Blood Holy Grail" - no wonder those authors are sueing!
I thought that Baldrick did a pretty good job of debunking these theories, although some of the debunking was almost as weak as the original theory. For example whether or not Mary Magdalene ever went to France or not. There's sod all hard evidence she did, but then again there's not much evidence she didn't either. We just don't know.
Kudos to Mr Baigent, one of the HBHG authors for being interviewed and sticking to his guns. Big thumbs down to Dan Brown for refusing to be interviewed, and even more of a thumbs down if he has been passing this nonsense off as historical facts.
I would have been the same as Tony at Rosslyn Andrea........ and what a BEAUTIFUL church that is.....I do love gothic architecture - I would LOVE to live in an old church.......
Mr Q is getting a bit worried about me, cos I asked him if we can go tp Exeter Cathedral and Winchester Cathedral......we have been watching a prog on BBC2 about the history of various Cathedrals and it has been fascinating.......
One little thing, the Priory of Sion.....the SECRET organisation, so IF its secret we aint gonna know anything about it are we????????????????? DURRRRRRR!!!!!!
Andrea 04-02-2005, 12:50 PM One little thing, the Priory of Sion.....the SECRET organisation, so IF its secret we aint gonna know anything about it are we????????????????? DURRRRRRR!!!!!!
But in the book, there are documents that were found in the 70's telling all the grand masters of the priory of sion ie Da Vinci, etc....
But it was all a grand hoax, by those three guys.
One thing they didn't go into was the organisation "Opus Dei" the very catholic organisation in the book. I wonder if that is all fiction as well.
christine 04-02-2005, 01:01 PM I must admit to not having read either book on the holy grail, but I did study theology to a degree level out of interest in the subject. So I was looking forward to watching the Tony Robinson programme very much.
It appeared to me that the male dominated early church completely squashed Mary's involvement in the ministry of Jesus, whether she was his favoured disciple or even his wife. I studied Johns Gospel [on which the painting of the last supper is based] and throughout one of the disciples is not ever named, they are simply referred to as 'the one who Jesus loved'. There has always been speculation as to who this person was, and the main body of thought is that it was John himself. It was a very interesting idea that the 'one who Jesus loved' was in fact Mary.
I am not sure why it would make Christianity a lie if Jesus had married and had a child. Unless there are arguments in the book which I don't know about, I don't think this revelation -if true - would take away from Jesus' ministry, crucifixion, being raised from the dead and final elevating to Gods side. I realise not everyone believes in this but looking at it objectively I don't see how this would be affected.
christine 04-02-2005, 01:02 PM One thing they didn't go into was the organisation "Opus Dei" the very catholic organisation in the book. I wonder if that is all fiction as well.
No this 'sect' exists, the current education minister is a member.
Andrea 04-02-2005, 01:08 PM No this 'sect' exists, the current education minister is a member.
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYAXGB)Really. I was gonna say, "what, one of our local mp's Charles Clarke." but he's moved on now hasn't he.
No this 'sect' exists, the current education minister is a member.
Hmmmm no wonder there was no mention of it on the programme last night - they wont want the truth uncovered for fear of mass hysteria and no control over the masses.....IMO of course!!!!!
Christianity has its roots in Catholisism, the Catholic Church is run by men, I wonder if its because they can keep secrets better than women??????? Cos I know if I was ordained as a priest and then I was told that the basis for the Catholic Church is not quite how we imagined and that Jesus WAS in fact married, I would have to SHOUT it from the rooftops!!!! I couldnt keep something like THAT a secret!!!!!
Re the "woman" in the Last Supper painting - and St Johns Gospel "on which the painting of the last supper is based and throughout one of the disciples is not ever named, they are simply referred to as 'the one who Jesus loved" now that would make perfect sense too wouldnt it!!!
I think much of the mystery has been caused by the different "re-writes" of the Bible over the centuries........I am also VERY interested in reading more about the Gnostic Gospels...im not quite ready to "write these off" just yet!
Hmmmm me thinks a trip to the Library is in order!
christine 07-02-2005, 01:00 PM http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYAXGB)Really. I was gonna say, "what, one of our local mp's Charles Clarke." but he's moved on now hasn't he.
I can't remember her name but she is the education minister at the moment, in her 40's probably. Sorry I can't give you a name!! :)
Bella 07-02-2005, 01:10 PM Bought this at Tescos for £3.73 and just started to read it!
floopy 07-02-2005, 01:29 PM Labour high-flyer Ruth Kelly has been appointed education secretary following a cabinet reshuffle.
Useful link.......http://www.mond.at/opus.dei/
I havent had a chance for a good nose on here - Im SUPPOSED to be working, but keep getting drawn back in to SO .........
cayman-eater 10-02-2005, 12:47 PM I am not sure why it would make Christianity a lie if Jesus had married and had a child. Unless there are arguments in the book which I don't know about, I don't think this revelation -if true - would take away from Jesus' ministry, crucifixion, being raised from the dead and final elevating to Gods side. I realise not everyone believes in this but looking at it objectively I don't see how this would be affected.
In the Da Vinci code it claims that one school of thought claimed Jesus was just an ordinary married man; the other claimed that he was a divine being, the son of God. It was apparently decided on a very close vote run by the Roman Emperor Constantine (a pagan himself) 300 years after Jesus' death that he was the son of God. Therefore to believe he was married was to believe that he was not the son of God, hence Christianity being a lie.
Why they thought he couldn't be married and also the son of God, I don't know. Sex is not suitable divine behaviour, apparently.
Dan Brown's book is unputdownable, full of codes, and all these interesting ideas expressed really readably - although I though the thriller side of it is very average.
But I'm really glad I read it, as it is a good way in to the history of the Holy Grail - I did a search on amazon and find there are lots of books about Mary Magdalene, including an actual "gospel" written by her.
christine 11-02-2005, 12:17 PM Thanks for the info, I will defo have to read this book.
I also am not sure why sex/procreation is seen as such a 'sin' by the church, this thought is also seen in the virgin birth of christ in the first place. I guess the early church fathers wanted to make it absolutely clear Jesus was the son of God and not the son of a carpenter. It was their way of countering any arguments that Jesus was simply a 'man'.
I guess the early church fathers wanted to make it absolutely clear Jesus was the son of God and not the son of a carpenter. It was their way of countering any arguments that Jesus was simply a 'man'.
Well, as I have said before, Jesus Son of God has a far better "ring to it" than Jesus Son of the Chippie doesnt it :)
Check out Holy Blood, Holy Grail too Christine.....:wink2:
christine 11-02-2005, 12:52 PM Hello Queenie,
Well it certainly seems I will have loads of reading to do !!!
Lol You are right about 'chippie', Handy Andy is not the new messiah!
Bella 21-02-2005, 08:50 AM Since I have finished the Da Vinci code, I am going off to the library today to see if they have Holy Blood, Holy Grail.
Don't read if you haven't read the book..
One question about the book though........Leigh Teabing, I know he had all the surveliance equipment but how did he know who the members were? How did he know who to spy on, who gave him that information? Maybe I skimmed over that part, or maybe it wasn't mentioned...........anyone help...?
I am also going to watch the Lion King to see if I can see the word "SEX" over Simba's head. :w00t:
Beauty & the Beast is another Walt Disney story that has a rose within the story, a wilting rose where the petals fall off until Beauty declares her love for the Beast.........is there a revelance to Jesus & Mary Magdelene there, I wonder!?
I started reading The Da Vinci Code earlier today. So far so good.
I've tried to avoid reading this thread, although it's hard not to glean some idea what the book's about from the enormous amount of publicity it's had. I purposely missed the Tony Robinson programme for the same reason. I wanted to start it without any expectations if at all possible.
I suspect that a lot of the references will be totally lost on me anyway, so in that respect I can read it and enjoy it as a fictional novel without having to worry about any truths, half-truths or conspiracies. :D
Oh I forgot to say. I finished this a wee while ago and it is the best book I have ever read.
"Finished" she says months if not years after everyone else has read it.
Well, not quite what I expected. Not nearly as shocking for a start. I was also expecting it to be far more arty-farty, acadmic and high-brow. Glad it wasn't because it would have bored me rigid. With hindsight, I suppose it wouldn't be a best seller unless the story was easy to read and had mass appeal.
The Da Vanci code to my mind is purely and simply a thriller. Nevertheless a good thriller. If people make more of it that's up to them, but I enjoyed the story without worrying about what truths, half-truths or untruths lay within.
It's fast paced to the point of sprinting. Inexplicable codes are solved in a blink of an eye, no one eats, sleeps or stops to relieve themselves and layer upon layer of coincidence comes thick and fast.
It reminded me a bit of Scooby Doo, goodies and baddies clearly defined with the heroes invincible as they escape yet another cliff-hanger. And like all good yarns the bad guys explain everything before getting their come-uppance.
I found it hard to take too seriously when I realised that all through the story I had been calling Teabing Teabag. It was downhill from there as I started imagining lines of dialogue and ridiculous situations for a spoofed version. I may post something it if if I get my thoughts into some sort of order.
Bella 07-03-2005, 12:03 PM Well, not quite what I expected. Not nearly as shocking for a start. I was also expecting it to be far more arty-farty, acadmic and high-brow. Glad it wasn't because it would have bored me rigid. With hindsight, I suppose it wouldn't be a best seller unless the story was easy to read and had mass appeal.
I found it hard to take too seriously when I realised that all through the story I had been calling Teabing Teabag. It was downhill from there as I started imagining lines of dialogue and ridiculous situations for a spoofed version. I may post something it if if I get my thoughts into some sort of order.
I think that's why I enjoyed it so much Nox, it was so on my level - easy to understand!! And ditto with Teabag was yours a PG Tip or a Tetley!!
I am desprately trying to read Cloud Atlas at the moment, another highly recommended book in the Richard & Judy Club but it is really difficult. This was pointed out by Judy but insists that you stick with it. Anyone else read it?
kookycat 07-03-2005, 12:14 PM i was looking at this book in the shop the other day bella, im intriqued as its highly recommended but whats it all about? the blurb doesnt really give much away, and i hate books that only have rave reviews on the back but nothing about what the story is aobut!!
Bella 07-03-2005, 12:55 PM Kooky, it is seemingly 6 books in one, although I am really struggling with the first one. The first one is set in the past, and each book brings you a step forward into the future. Judy did say that the first book is the hardest one as the guy who wrote it, David Mitchell has written it in the way that it would have been written in that time, which I think is about late 19th century, I am not even too sure about that!!! I am going to stick with it, get past the first book and hopefully enjoy the rest of it!
I'll let you know how I get on with it and if you want to borrow it afterwards, I'd be happy to forward it on to you.
kookycat 08-03-2005, 09:26 PM yea that would be great but only if it is good! i dont like having to concentrate hard when all i want is some light hearted reading to take my mind off uni work! so are the 6 stories about the same person or is it just 6 short stories? im not really a fan of short stories either, they just arent satisfying enough!
Bella 08-03-2005, 09:43 PM I think they are all about 6 different people and to be honest I don't think they are even linked!!! I can't believe I am reading this book just because Richard & Judy told me to!! I did read The Time Traveller's Wife on their recommendation and absolutely loved it, so I guess I am going with instinct here. I may actually just skip the first book and dash onto the next! Is that cheating? :ohmy:
You know I do kind of agree with the short stories. I have read all the Ian Rankin books in the Rebus series apart from the latest one and he brought out A Good Hanging that is a collection of short stories about Rebus, and I did still enjoy them but not half as much as a full length story about his latest crime.
Bonsai 17-08-2005, 03:07 PM I was given this book to read at the weekend, and im looking forward to it.
I hope it doesnt go straight over my head, as the guy who lent it to me is bound to want an indepth conversation about it afterwards.
I was given this book to read at the weekend, and im looking forward to it.
I hope it doesnt go straight over my head, as the guy who lent it to me is bound to want an indepth conversation about it afterwards.
I still havent read it yet, although I have read "The Secrets of the Code" so if you want to borrow that afterwards Bon, let me know and I will pop it in the post for you!
I was given this book to read at the weekend, and im looking forward to it.
I hope it doesnt go straight over my head, as the guy who lent it to me is bound to want an indepth conversation about it afterwards.
Dinnae worry Bonnie - I found it quite easy to read and that's saying something since I started to get confused during Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone :ohmy:
Andrea 17-08-2005, 10:19 PM Bonnie, you'll be fine with it, it's a really good, easy read.
I'm actually reading at the moment a book called "Secrets of the Code".
Basically a guy has gone off and done research into all the subjects that the Davinci Code brings up. Looking into all the other books written on the subject.
I've only read a couple of chapters at the moment, but is a good read. But you do need to concentrate on this one. I find if my mind wanders, I lose what it is saying.
I was just going to put something then but realised it might give away the plot of the davinci code, oops.
Bonnie, you'll be fine with it, it's a really good, easy read.
I'm actually reading at the moment a book called "Secrets of the Code".
Basically a guy has gone off and done research into all the subjects that the Davinci Code brings up. Looking into all the other books written on the subject.
I've only read a couple of chapters at the moment, but is a good read. But you do need to concentrate on this one. I find if my mind wanders, I lose what it is saying.
I was just going to put something then but realised it might give away the plot of the davinci code, oops.
Sounds like the one I have just read Andrea - I dont know whether it has given the plot away as I still havent read it! I did enjoy the Secrets book though as it answered the questions I have been asking myself since reading Holy Blood Holy Grail - I also had a copy of the Bible to hand so I could look certain things up......
I still think that there are many unanswered questions and I also feel very strongly that the Vatican has the answers - but I doubt we will EVER know the truth! I like the idea of Jesus being a "normal" man and Mary Magdelane being his wife........it makes him more "real" for me I guess.....
I just bought this- at £3.91 I couldn't resist, but in the forward/reviews etc it mentions two other books that lead up to this one. Am I best reading them first?
Must admit I had never heard of this author until this book came out and I'm reading it becasue of the massive hype.
I love a good plot, and from what the critics say, you can't get much better than this or HP for plot.
So if anyone knows if there are other books that would be worth reading first let me know- thanks
Bella 31-08-2005, 06:17 PM Bob, do you mean the two books that Dan Brown wrote? Angels & Demons...and I can't remember the other one.......... I haven't read any of those.
Enjoy The Da Vinci Code, it is a very easy and enjoyable read.
Bob, do you mean the two books that Dan Brown wrote? Angels & Demons...and I can't remember the other one.......... I haven't read any of those.
Enjoy The Da Vinci Code, it is a very easy and enjoyable read.
I don't know what they are called. So you didn't read them and still enjoyed it?
Bella 31-08-2005, 06:46 PM I think The Da Vinci code is a book on it's own. So, no I didn't read them and yes I still enjoyed it. I am begining to worry now though Bob that maybe I should have read these books first!
Patsy 31-08-2005, 10:26 PM Bob, do you mean the two books that Dan Brown wrote? Angels & Demons...and I can't remember the other one.......... I haven't read any of those.
Enjoy The Da Vinci Code, it is a very easy and enjoyable read.
I'm reading Angels & Demons at the moment. Don't read books, as a rule, but bought it at Gatwick for my holiday. I really wanted the Da Vinci Code, but they didn't have it. I think it would make a good film, actually.
Would I still enjoy TDC if I've read Angels & Demons? Or would it be predictable? Are they different?
Andrea 31-08-2005, 11:12 PM The kind of plot and story line the book takes is very similar in Angels and Demons and the DVC.
But I think the DVC is more fascinating because of all the questions it brings up.
But they are extremely similar.
He's written a few more books as well, but haven't bothered to read them as I know they will basically be the same kind of plot.
borneobabe 02-09-2005, 08:51 PM DVC is one of the most unputdownable books every written....regardless of all the controversy about it, as a thumping good story ... it cant be beaten. Angels and Demons features the same character, Dr. Robert Langdon and interestingly it was written and produced BEFORE the Da Vinci Code, but of course has now come into its own because of the success of DVC. Angels is another romping blockbuster that does for Rome what DVC did for The Louvre ! Of the other two Dan Brown books Deception Point is an absolute cracker..... fantastic novel... and nothing at all to do with Dr. Robert Langdon. Set in the Antarctic it will keep readers hooked from moment one. My least favourite of the Brown novels is Digital Fortress mainly because it is very very technical and you would need a degree in code breaking to follow it at all. But still worth a look with a good story. Roll on next year when hopefully Tom Hanks will do the role of Robert Langdon proud. Would be a shame if the movie was a let down.
Andrea 02-09-2005, 10:02 PM I'm looking forward to his next book that I heard about.
It is supposedly to be set around the mason's.
My dad being a mason but never telling us much of what goes on, it will be interesting to read his latest.
Patsy 02-09-2005, 10:06 PM Is he an "enlightened" mason, Andrea? :shocking:
Andrea 02-09-2005, 10:31 PM Now you see I've no idea what an enlightened mason is.
He tells me nothing.
Apart from the fact I've seen his pinny and necklace that he wears:blink:
Patsy 02-09-2005, 10:42 PM Now you see I've no idea what an enlightened mason is.
He tells me nothing.
Apart from the fact I've seen his pinny and necklace that he wears:blink:
Enlightened. The Illuminati?
Andrea 02-09-2005, 10:44 PM Ahh, you see I'm not quick enough to think of stuff like that.
But I do wonder why when he goes to Edinburgh every year he visits the Rosslyn Chapel:unsure:
Bella 03-09-2005, 07:23 AM I am not too sure about Tom Hanks as the main role, but I am still looking forward to it. They are going to be filming at Rossyln Chapel......do you think they might need some extras? :w00t:
My dad's a mason too, Andrea but that's as much as I know!! :ninja:
Bonsai 14-09-2005, 01:43 PM I couldnt get into this book. I normally get totally hooked on books and cant put them down - but this book lingered on my desk at work, and on the coffee table at home .... and i never felt the urge to pick it up.
So - ive given up, and this morning i popped to the library to get a couple of 'chick flick' fiction books to get me back into reading again.,
msgirl 14-09-2005, 02:24 PM I got more out of watching several t.v.specials on the Discovery/Science/National Geographic Channels over here than I got from the book!!
JakeyBoy 01-12-2005, 04:28 AM As I said in the "What are you reading now?" thred I am really into this book ar it is very hard to put down. It is actually quite exciting, some words I don't understand and some of the French but most of it is easy to understand. I think I love the book because I'm into mysterious stuff and I give it about a year until they make a movie of it - you watch they will! I give it a 8/10 and I'm only up to page 60 or something!!!
msgirl 02-12-2005, 05:45 AM JB, they ARE making a movie of it already!
JakeyBoy 03-12-2005, 08:17 AM Oh, how slow am I!
Aondeag 05-12-2005, 12:33 PM Just watch a move called 'the Stigmata'....and you will see where dan brown got all his ideas from...
and no doubt the Stigmat got it's ideas from somewhere else..and so on.
Who was the first?
Holy Blood/Holy Grail?
I would be interesting in reading the very first notion..........
Islandman 05-12-2005, 02:16 PM Just watch a move called 'the Stigmata'....and you will see where dan brown got all his ideas from...
and no doubt the Stigmat got it's ideas from somewhere else..and so on.
Who was the first?
Holy Blood/Holy Grail?
I would be interesting in reading the very first notion..........
I love that movie...Stigmata...one of my faves. Which is probably why I enjoyed Da Vinci Code as well. lol.
Aondeag 05-12-2005, 02:18 PM It's a great film allright....
creepy..scarey.....relevant.....
you would'nt forget it in a hurry.
:-)
JakeyBoy 07-12-2005, 08:52 AM Sounds interesting. The Da Vinci code just got better the last time I read it... very interesting.
It took me about 3 months to read this and I loved it- absolutely brilliant.
Not knowing much about art or churches nor Opus dei, I beleived every word, drank it all in and though what a marvelous plot.
Can't wait for the film and you know who I think would make an excellent Robert Langdon?
it's Phil from corrie- that's just how i imagine Langdon to look like.
He's a bit sexy isn't he :blush:
Aondeag 07-12-2005, 12:47 PM I enjoyed the story...but I absolutely CRINGED at all the cliches.That ruined it for me.
'she was a beautiful french girl...he was a tweed jacket-ed academic..with leather patches on his jacket elbows.'
And of course the wicked policement etc.Never mind the religious content...
And it relied HEAVILY on coincidences.Wow..how LUCKY were they that the old ex army (or wotever) codger happened to have his own private plane and mansion and money etc etc....
Try solving a mystery left to you own devices and on a normal salary.
It started great but just disolved into weakness............And that whole secret society...with the grandparents etc...
That was just an excuse for dirty old perverts to stand around gawping at people 'doing the biz'....
ha ha.
JakeyBoy 13-12-2005, 11:47 PM This book gave me goosebumps last night. The whole thing with how Christianity is a big, fat, ugly lie was a shock. Now I'm not religious at all (not even Christian) but that was very ..... I have no words for it.
Almost finished now. I've started to read in bulk so I can get through it faster :kid:
floopy 15-12-2005, 01:47 PM I loved it too, but then being a recovering catholic (read total athiest) I guess I was always going to :ninja:
Pandora 15-12-2005, 04:19 PM It took me about 3 months to read this and I loved it- absolutely brilliant.
Not knowing much about art or churches nor Opus dei, I beleived every word, drank it all in and though what a marvelous plot.
Can't wait for the film and you know who I think would make an excellent Robert Langdon?
it's Phil from corrie- that's just how i imagine Langdon to look like.
He's a bit sexy isn't he :blush:
Yes he would be good !! Unfortunately its Tom Hanks playing him in the film.... cant wait for it to come out though. I loved the book and have bought it a few of my friends and family for Christmas.
News on the film is that it will be released in the summer.
Actors playing the parts are:-
Robert Langdon - Tom Hanks
Sophie Neveau - Audrey Tautou
Leigh Teabing - Sir Ian McKellan
Bishop Arigosisas(or whatever his name is) - Alfred Molina
Silas the albino monk - a shaven headed and scary looking Paul Bettany (he played the male lead in the film Wimbledon with Kirsten Dunst)
Bezu Fache - Jean Reno (who I love !!!!)
Robert Langdon - Tom Hanks <--- big mistake
Sophie Neveau - Audrey Tautou <--- I pictured her like that French bird from Braveheart when I read the book. Should've been her!
Leigh Teabing - Sir Ian McKellan <--- good choice!
Bishop Arigosisas(or whatever his name is) - Alfred Molina <--- don't think I know him
Silas the albino monk - a shaven headed and scary looking Paul Bettany <--- who...?
Bezu Fache - Jean Reno <--- exactly how I pictured him when reading the book!
Pandora 17-12-2005, 04:06 PM Peej, Alfred Molina is a British actor (damn good one too). He is dark, olive skinned, large brown eyes, married to Jill Gascoigne (actress).... oooh Im sure you will know him when you see him. He might be in the trailer below.....
For a sneak preview of the film, click http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/thedavincicode/
if you liked this, you really MUST check out 'The Last Templar' by Raymond Khoury - im gripped, cant put it down (apart from when i am on here of course :wink2: ) its bluddy brill!!!!
Aondeag 20-12-2005, 08:01 AM I agree..it IS brill.My only fault with The Last Templar' is that it assumes a lot of ignorance on the readers part.I find that a bit patronising.
Like..he ASSUMES we have never heard of the discovery of the other gospels or that we did'nt realise when the Gospels were written etc.
People find these subjects fascinating...and MUCH research and debate etc has been done about them.
The author presumes we never question anything................
ah yes...us simple folk!
It's a great read tho'.
:-)
Bella 22-12-2005, 05:16 PM Robert Langdon - Tom Hanks <--- big mistake
Sophie Neveau - Audrey Tautou <--- I pictured her like that French bird from Braveheart when I read the book. Should've been her!
Leigh Teabing - Sir Ian McKellan <--- good choice!
Bishop Arigosisas(or whatever his name is) - Alfred Molina <--- don't think I know him
Silas the albino monk - a shaven headed and scary looking Paul Bettany <--- who...?
Bezu Fache - Jean Reno <--- exactly how I pictured him when reading the book!
Pretty much agree PJ, I am not sure who could have played the lead but I thinking "oh no, not another Tom Hanks movie". Matt Damon would have been good, but maybe he is too young for the role.
Paul Bettany was also in A Beautiful Mind with Russel Crowe.
You can read more about Alfred Molina - http://www.alfred-molina.com/indexbottom.html He also played the priest in Choclat so religious roles must suit him!
Thanks Pan for the trialer - it looks fab!:w00t:
borneobabe 22-12-2005, 05:58 PM http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/thedavincicode/
Check out the first movie trailer for Da Vinci Code.....looks pretty good to me !!!
JakeyBoy 23-12-2005, 01:12 AM Just finished reading it and I can't wait until the movie! The trailer looks awesome and I can't wait to show my aunty it. She was the one that let me borrow the book which she bought 4 months before it was popular!
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