View Full Version : Anti Social Behaviour that bother you personally
Dolores 14-02-2005, 06:23 PM By that I mean what anti social behaviour affects you personally.
Some people have issues considered high priority by the police and other enforcement agencies in their neighbourhood/town that affect them such as drug abuse, discarded syringes, violent neighbours etc,
Whilst others have minor issues (compared to drug abuse etc) but that still vex them terribly but aren't considered major areas by the powers that be, ie Police and other enforcement such as cycling in non-cycling areas.
So please tick what actually affects you.
It's just a small survey to prove my point at work!
Voice of reason 14-02-2005, 06:27 PM Where's the poll Dol?
Edit: Ok I can see it now Sorry! :blush:
I ticked none of the above because it's pretty quite where we live, so much so that there's nothing for anyone to hang around for! We don't even have a shop :glare: But our village is on a very straight very fast road and we do have a problem with motorcyclists every weekend. Apparently the main A road through the village appears on several motorcyclist websites as being a great one for getting up speed, needless to say there have been countless accidents and deaths on this stretch of road. I'd like to see more speed cameras, we do have a mobile one that visits, but not at the weekend when it would be most useful, sheer volume of traffic keeps speed down in the week so it's not as bad then.
tonee 14-02-2005, 06:29 PM I have to say, that nothing in my community affects me at all. If I call the police, they respond or any other service. I have no quibbles at all. Sorry!
Dolores 14-02-2005, 06:31 PM I have to say, that nothing in my community affects me at all. If I call the police, they respond or any other service. I have no quibbles at all. Sorry!Well it's not quibbles as such .... and I am IN NO WAY putting the police down! It's just that I'm keen to see what local issues affect MOST people.
For example in our town we have some areas with terrible drug use but other areas where it is drug free and residents have little or no knowledge of the heroin problem in some areas.
.... I've probably started a crap poll and not explained myself very well ... and I haven't even had a drink yet!
I saw that remark about my avatars.... Dol :laugh:
Dolores 14-02-2005, 06:35 PM I saw that remark about my avatars.... Dol :laugh:
lol! well sometimes one feels like higher forces are at work on this board doesn't one!!
lol! well sometimes one feels like higher forces are at work on this board doesn't one!!
Not this time - you just weren't quick enough! :laugh:
Not a lot going on around here most of the time (touch wood), but then I'm seldom in the middle of town when the pubs turn out!
So what's an anti-social behaviour action zone? Are the families who consistantly cause a problem going to get housed elsewhere?
tonee 14-02-2005, 07:31 PM I am probably going to regret this but.....there are drug problems where I live and a murder committed one street away but again I say....the police or gardai respond very quickly and it doesnt impinge on where I live, at least just yet....
I did have a heroin addict living over the road from me when I first moved here and the police were forever knocking the door in, she then became clean but tragically she died a few years later of a brain hemmorage (sp) Her parents still live there but really that was the extent of the drug problem on my door step.
We also did have a problem with kids congregating and using threatening, violent behaviour as driving cars up and down, but they have all grown up and moved on now thank goodness. So the worse thing we have to deal with is doo poo :pooh: left on the pavement and in parks where the boys play footie.
Dol I feel I want to take part - cos most of the replies so far have been that no-one has a problem.
But I can't cos we don't either, the worst anti-social thing around here is the ming of the mart on a Wednesday. Oh and then the brown water on a thursday after the mart is washed on a wednesday and all the water is used so all our water turns a bit tinged.
I suppose it is just as well because in the 2 1/2 years I have lived here I have yet to see a police officer mobile or on foot - except those pretend ones in Wire in the Blood, oh and my mates [but that is always social].
Dolores 14-02-2005, 08:29 PM Well actually by either not ticking anything or by ticking relatively minor things (in comparison to drugs etc) you have actually proved my point! So thanks!
....as for my point .... I've forgotten what it was now!
oh yeh! that the majority of the people have minor problems that are easily sorted and if the government put money into petty misdemeanor types of anti social behaviour they would reap the benefits from the majority of the people.
That is NOT to take anything away from the horrors of drug addiction and living with it.
oh yeh! that the majority of the people have minor problems that are easily sorted and if the government put money into petty misdemeanor types of anti social behaviour they would reap the benefits from the majority of the people.
Funnily enough I remember when 'beat crime' [which was petty misdemeanours] was downgraded to the point where an officer would not even attend the incident. It/they were classed as so insignificant, and more to the point undetected, that the powers that be - poured the meagre resources into more significant crime.
e.g. if Mrs Bloggs got her window broken by a gang of kids roaming the streets - no one would go out to her, it would not be crimed [because it would never be 'cleared up'], it would go in a beat book - and the beat officer [if there was one] would pay attention to the area.
This is obviously not the way we want our streets policed is it? I know no-one is kocking the police here - and neither am I - I am knocking the system and the government for forcing the hands of the police - and it is all down to statistics, oh and money.
Andrea 14-02-2005, 09:58 PM Well Dol, my vote proves your point, I think.
I voted for dog mess on the pavement.
Now I know this seems very insignificant against all the other things that I could have voted for, but that is the one that I see more of every day.
Every time I walk to school with the kids, I am always telling them, mind the dog poo. It is everywhere, and its disgusting.
Yes there are drug problems and youths hanging around all over the place. But I don't see it. Now is that terrible of me to put my kids getting dog poo on their shoe above some family living next door to drug addicts and having disused needles all over the place. I sound like a total nimby here don't I.
But dog poo is the problem I see most.
claire 15-02-2005, 02:52 PM Nothing in my area really affects me negatively (except jealousy at some of the stunning houses!! :blush: ). I'm quite happy where I live. The area is nice, people are nice, roads are clean, no druggies or many youths hanging about. If there were, I would feel a little scared walking around.
Ohhhh I have ticked most of them.........
One of the best things about moving to Torbay was not knowing the scag heads that were begging under the ATM machines in town, but i still see it sometimes, I just dont know them down here.....
As for dog :pooh:.......as responsible dog owners (Mr Q and I cant put on a fleece or jacket without its pockets bulging with carrier bags ready for Nipper Dawg) it infuriates me:ranting: my walk to work is LITTERED with piles of :pooh:, and the worst of it is, as I walk down, the houses get more expensive and I find that they DO pick up the poop and put it in a bag, but then they dump it in the corner of the green :wallbash:
We had a violent drug dealer move into our neighbourhood a while back. He was a nephew or something of a family who already lived here, and he obviously smelled fresh blood. Everyone always tries to deny what they're seeing and hearing, hoping nasty stuff will go away, but eventually it got unpleasant for us.
One evening Miss Dab I arrived home with a smashed up lip. She'd been walking past when he punched a girl to the ground. Miss Dab intervened and got belted. She was just 16.
It all got horrible very quickly. His scummy new mates (lads from the neighbourhood who were attracted to his dangerous glamour) told him I was the kind of person who would certainly call the police, so he started a war of threats and abuse. We ended up having to put masking tape over the letter box to prevent fire bombing etc. It was grim.
The situation sorted itself out when someone waited in his front garden late one night and broke some of his bones. Once he could get around again he moved away. But it was pretty grim while it lasted.
The reason I'm telling you this is because the entire thing only took about a month from uncomfortable start to hellish finish. These vampires take a nice neighbourhood down very quickly if everyone stays in denial.
I'm glad it was sorted out so quickly Dab, what a nightmare it must have been for your family and neighbours. But it was only because someone took the law into their own hands that the situation was resolved at all. Can you imagine how long it would have taken for the police to intervene with a practical solution.
You were lucky the youth moved away and didn't seek revenge as it could have got a lot worse.
Cockney 08-03-2005, 06:26 PM Nox there is no box for all of them shall I tick something else http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_6_3.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm22755GB)
jaycee 09-03-2005, 10:15 AM I'm quite lucky I suppose, the things that bother me on a day to day basis are only minor, dog :pooh: & litter from the school opposite.
My sister though who lives just down the road is a different matter. I used to envy her living in the street she lived in cos it was like the street we used to live in when we were kids, everyone in & out of each others houses & late night BBQ's on the front in the summer.
This has all now changed since her next door neighbour & the son of next door but one hooked up & then finished. The abuse her & her kids now have to listen to & the damage caused to her house is awful & the parents of the chap concerned just lay the blame all at her neighbours feet & refuse to do anything.
It's got so bad that she's selling up..........soon I hope
Coastie 22-03-2005, 01:22 PM Just been discussing the following at work:
Anyone with a juvenile record should be made to join the armed services at 16 unless they attend college and then they should have to join the services at 18!
they should serve a minimum of 2yrs preferably 5...!
jaycee 23-03-2005, 03:30 PM Just been discussing the following at work:
Anyone with a juvenile record should be made to join the armed services at 16 unless they attend college and then they should have to join the services at 18!
they should serve a minimum of 2yrs preferably 5...!
Bring back National Service I say
Bella 23-03-2005, 03:46 PM Too right!! Community Service - what a joke!! My brother in law used to work on this and half the time, most of them would not turn up, or they turn up and be/get stoned, and they wouldn't do half the work they were supposed too! The thing that annoyed my brother in law, is although he picked them up and took them to the job he had no authority over them, so they could do what the heck they liked! And more often than not it was the same people he got back all the time!! Hardly a system that works is it?
I am all for National Service and Boot-camp! Not only would it be good for the youths who are getting misled, it would also be good for the kids who think they are something to bring them down a peg or two!
Coastie 23-03-2005, 03:51 PM Can we bring back the stocks to.....I need something to do with my kitchen scraps and I don't want a compost heap since I don't do gardening!
Coastie 09-06-2007, 09:42 AM Another result of a Dol's new game...
Have to say I get a bit urked by the fact that the area in front of my house appears to be a fave stopping point for loudly spoken 'very' common folk who use innit and swear in every sentence...
The other night I could hear a girl slating her boyfriend to her mate and then crumpling into a sobbing heap and howling her distress...I was trying to watch my fave programe on TV and was highly tempted to tell her to go away...but she looked like she could wrestle a moose with one hand tied behind her back...so I just scowled really hard at the insie of my curtains! :evilmad:
Figaro 12-06-2007, 03:47 PM I'm not really affected by any of the issue's listed in the poll, but we have a family across the road who used to be a bit of a nuisance.
When we first moved in, there were two kids aged about 9 and 11. Then a few years passed and they became terrible teens, constantly arguing with their parents and each other. They were real screaming matches which often spilled out onto the street and could happen at any time of the day or night. It happend so frequently, they were nicknamed the "Asbo" family. I can't really explain it properly here, but their rows completely changed the atmosphere on the road.
Now they've grown up a bit more, the eldest boy has gone off to Uni and its all calmed down again.
Its amazing how 1 family can really change the tone of a place.
Dolores 12-06-2007, 05:55 PM The other night I could hear a girl slating her boyfriend to her mate and then crumpling into a sobbing heap and howling her distress...I was trying to watch my fave programe on TV and was highly tempted to tell her to go away...but she looked like she could wrestle a moose with one hand tied behind her back...so I just scowled really hard at the insie of my curtains! :evilmad:
if it's who I think it is, steer well clear ... and no it's not me!!!
Our street is quiet and we don't have any problems with rowdies. However the other day someone attempted to break into my car by levering the driver's door outwards at the top by about 3 inches or so, they must have been disturbed because with a bit more effort they could have reached inside and nicked it.
I've lived here for 7 years now and in that time I've been burgled once, had bikes stolen from my back garden TWICE (and it's got a six foot high wall all round it)! and now had my car broken into (attempted) but I must be in denial cos i still say the street where I live is OK and I feel perfectly safe!!
I think I'd rather put up with all the above than have rowdy behaviour or an obnoxious ASBO family in the street because I think it is so intimidating. Having said that my lovely neighbour has moved out and I bet my luck is to have an ASBO family move in next door!!!
Figaro 12-06-2007, 06:30 PM I think I'd rather put up with all the above than have rowdy behaviour or an obnoxious ASBO family in the street because I think it is so intimidating.
I agree. One problem family in a street will disturb the peace and cause distress on a daily basis. As will rowdy behaviour from passing strangers. Burglary and car crime, while not pleasant, is an ad hoc occurrence.
In an ideal world though, none of it would happen.
Slipper 14-06-2007, 09:08 AM Dol, Coastie,
I am considering moving to the South Coast. Me and my partner are certain that we can improve the neighbourhood because every where we have lived our roads have had police constantly cruising up and down. It's dead handy because when she gets a bit shirty with me she is able to get them to give me a nights sleep at their office. sometimes I mget there and find the kids have been given a night there. This can be difficult for the youngest girl as she has to get her boyfriend to get home from the pub and look after the baby. He sometimes complains as the youngest baby isn't his (infact none of them are) but he has to be indoors by 9pm anyway as terms of his parole. I'm proud of how tiffany is coping so well with the three babies considering she is only 16.
My lad is keen to get to the South Coast as he says the watersports available give him a better opportunity to expand his little business he has in second hand car dealing. I'm sure he said stealing but I think that his lisp due to the piercings had something to do with that.
If we get a place in the same street that would be handy as I could then do some odd jobs around the house for you and your friends. This would be really useful in suplementing the money I get from the social. Thing is I would need you not to mention anything to them if they do call round. You'd need to tell them that I popped round to borrow some sugar as doing any work would jepardise my disability allowances.
Anyway, if you know of any neighbours moving out near you perhaps you could let she who REALLY MUST be obeyed know. Just be warned that she has colourful langauge and it's best to phone her as the chain smoking can get to some people. O by the way her name is Waynetta.
Cheers
Wayne
Coastie 15-06-2007, 07:28 AM LMAO...excellent Slips!
However you forgot to mention the problems with the staffy that keeps escaping and the rotty that howls and barks constantly while it's tethered in the back garden! :wacko:
msgirl 15-06-2007, 10:37 AM Dol, Coastie,
I am considering moving to the South Coast. Me and my partner are certain that we can improve the neighbourhood because every where we have lived our roads have had police constantly cruising up and down. It's dead handy because when she gets a bit shirty with me she is able to get them to give me a nights sleep at their office. sometimes I mget there and find the kids have been given a night there. This can be difficult for the youngest girl as she has to get her boyfriend to get home from the pub and look after the baby. He sometimes complains as the youngest baby isn't his (infact none of them are) but he has to be indoors by 9pm anyway as terms of his parole. I'm proud of how tiffany is coping so well with the three babies considering she is only 16.
My lad is keen to get to the South Coast as he says the watersports available give him a better opportunity to expand his little business he has in second hand car dealing. I'm sure he said stealing but I think that his lisp due to the piercings had something to do with that.
If we get a place in the same street that would be handy as I could then do some odd jobs around the house for you and your friends. This would be really useful in suplementing the money I get from the social. Thing is I would need you not to mention anything to them if they do call round. You'd need to tell them that I popped round to borrow some sugar as doing any work would jepardise my disability allowances.
Anyway, if you know of any neighbours moving out near you perhaps you could let she who REALLY MUST be obeyed know. Just be warned that she has colourful langauge and it's best to phone her as the chain smoking can get to some people. O by the way her name is Waynetta.
Cheers
Wayne
Priceless Slips!!:laugh:
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