Time Travel



Where would you go



would you change things



What would you take with you

You mean theoretically, if it were possible?

You mean theoretically, if it were possible?

Yes of course

Unless you have the plans for a time machine on you

I think I would go back two Saturdays ago





No I think I would go back to 1981 and tell my self to dump that silly tart I was dating that way I won't marry her



YES

Not very ambitious........

I see you've made a new friend Cockney.

I'd love to go back to King Charles II time. It's a period that's always fascinated me, the civil war, the King getting 'is 'ead chopped orf and King Charles II and his courtiers shagging their way round the court. I reckon they would have made the 1960s seem tame!

Of course if I was really back in them thar days I'd be a scullery maid (if I was lucky) who'd get struck down by the Pox and then killed by the plague!

Might be interesting to go back 2000 years and see if Jesus really did perform those miracles.

I'd love to go back to King Charles II time. It's a period that's always fascinated me, the civil war, the King getting 'is 'ead chopped orf and King Charles II and his courtiers shagging their way round the court. I reckon they would have made the 1960s seem tame!

Of course if I was really back in them thar days I'd be a scullery maid (if I was lucky) who'd get struck down by the Pox and then killed by the plague!

So true but hay you may have been well Rogerd on a regular basis by the master

Might be interesting to go back 2000 years and see if Jesus really did perform those miracles.

What an maybe find out it was Paul Daniels all the long

Not very ambitious........

My life would have been very different if not for her

Simply I would go back 12 years to before my mum died.....I think my life may have been different if she were here.....not better, not worse just different.

Simply I would go back 12 years to before my mum died.....I think my life may have been different if she were here.....not better, not worse just different.

I'MMMMMMMMMM not going there

Of course if I was really back in them thar days I'd be a scullery maid (if I was lucky) who'd get struck down by the Pox and then killed by the plague![/size][/font]

Oh Dol, stop putting yourself down, what with you gorgeous, sleeky, shiny hair you may well have been one of those wenches shagging their way around the court!! Not that I am calling a cheap tart or anything like that!

I would go back to just when Microsoft were just starting up, buy a whole load of their shares then sit back and watch them rise and then cash in!

Can you have more than one trip? If so, I would love to go back and see my gran as young woman. Her own mum died young, so she was left to deal with her dad, younger brother and the farm and she coped remarkably well, I just would love to have seen her in action!

I'MMMMMMMMMM not going there
going where?? where we going then??? :wacko:

my gran as young woman. Her own mum died young, so she was left to deal with her dad, younger brother and the farm and she coped remarkably well, I just would love to have seen her in action!


You sweet little thing you very nice





but what if you accidentally got her killed and you where never born what then A........ A ............A ............well come on

March 999BC (or there abouts) and I would tell Mary to keep her legs well and truely shut, no matter who the hell he tells you he is, or how good it's gonna be !

I would also go back and tell John Lennon to duck/stay in.

Zip

March 999BC (or there abouts) and I would tell Mary to keep her legs well and truely shut, no matter who the hell he tells you he is, or how good it's gonna be !

I would also go back and tell John Lennon to duck/stay in.

Zip


One word Mr burns style

Excellent

March 999BC (or there abouts) and I would tell Mary to keep her legs well and truely shut, no matter who the hell he tells you he is, or how good it's gonna be !




Mary who???

I would like to travel back to 1983 and I would make sure Gordon Smith scored in the last minute of extra time in the FA Cup Final so Brighton would have beaten Man Utd 3-2 and won the FA Cup.....

You sweet little thing you very nice





but what if you accidentally got her killed and you where never born what then A........ A ............A ............well come on

Ah, no but that is just it, we can travel back but we can't alter anything that happened, so time would just continue as it was.

I would recommend you to read The Time Traveller's Wife - a wonderful book about Time Travelling with a twist. I think you would enjoy it.

Mary who???

Tell me, you are kidding............. :unsure:

In any case legs or shut or not it would have still happened as it The Immaculate Conception and she was known as the Virgin Mary!

In any case legs or shut or not it would have still happened as it The Immaculate Conception and she was known as the Virgin Mary!

not that old chestnut! :D

"sorry mum, but I got pregnant out of wedlock - it was foretold in a dream!!" :angel:

Mary screwed it up for centuries and centuries for women in a certain predicament - after all you can only have one virgin birth ...or can you?!

not that old chestnut! :D

"sorry mum, but I got pregnant out of wedlock - it was foretold in a dream!!" :angel:

Mary screwed it up for centuries and centuries for women in a certain predicament - after all you can only have one virgin birth ...or can you?!

Well, I do know that you can't get pregnant standing up and you most definitely cannot and will not get pregnant first time! :w00t:

Well, I do know that you can't get pregnant standing up and you most definitely cannot and will not get pregnant first time! :w00t:

....or if the lavatory seat isn't warm before you sit on it!

....or if the lavatory seat isn't warm before you sit on it!

:shocking: Oh, I didn't know that one!!! I'll just have to hover in future!

Tell me, you are kidding............. :unsure:

In any case legs or shut or not it would have still happened as it The Immaculate Conception and she was known as the Virgin Mary!

1000 odd years before Christ?

No sorry, have nae a clue.

1000 odd years before Christ?

No sorry, have nae a clue.

Of course Mary was a very common name then. it could have been any number of women!

Maybe it's just me then.

Incidently, Jesus would have been conceived towards the start of 1 BC.

Maybe it's just me then.



No, I don't think you were the result of an immaculate conception.

Maybe it's just me then.

Incidently, Jesus would have been conceived towards the start of 1 BC.

would that have been the date on his birth certificate then?! :laugh: :smartie:

would that have been the date on his birth certificate then?! :laugh: :smartie:

I think it would have been 25th December.

Mother - Virgin Mary. Father - God. wonder what they put as his occupation?

I think it would have been 25th December.

Mother - Virgin Mary. Father - God. wonder what they put as his occupation?

Bella, my love, try and keep up!

would that have been the date on his birth certificate then?! :laugh: :smartie:

Well, technically, I would guess it would have been 0, but I realise you're not really interested in anything other than taking the ****.

Bella, my love, try and keep up!

I honestly think I have confused myself.............. :wacko: I am completely lost now! Lack of alcohol - would it be a sin to open a bottle on a Tuesday night?

JESUS' REAL BIRTHDAY



Most biblical scholars and preachers readily admit that they know Christ was not born on December 25th. However, they claim that this day is as good as any other to celebrate the birth of Jesus, despite the fact that it was originally a pagan celebration called Saturnalia which commemorated the birth of the sun god.





Few know that there is a biblical way to determine when the Messiah was actually born. We can do this by relating the conception and birth of Jesus (Yeshua) with the conception and birth of John the Baptist.





First, we need to understand what "the division of Abijah" was. We find in 1 Chronicles 24:1-19 that the descendants of Aaron's 24 grandsons (the sons of Eleazer and Ithamar) were divided into 24 divisions or courses for the purpose of serving at the Temple. 1 Chronicles 24:10 tells us that the 8th division of service was assigned to Abijah's descendants.

Each of these divisions served at the Temple for an eight-day period (1 Chr. 9:25). The service began and ended on the weekly Sabbath (2 Chr. 23:8). In addition to their normal service, all 24 courses served at the Temple during the three holy seasons every year. The Jewish Mishnah indicates that each course served a week during the first half of the year, the three annual festival weeks, and a week during the last half of the year, for a total of five weeks during a normal year.

A normal year on the Hebrew calendar consists of twelve lunar months of 29 or 30 days, for a total of 354 days. This is about 11 days less than a solar year (365.24 days). During a regular Jewish year (which occurs 12 times in a 19-year cycle), 51 weeks of coverage would be needed to ensure that the Temple was cared for every week throughout the year.

24 (first half of the year) + 3 (festival weeks) + 24 (second half of the year) = 51 weeks

Between the 1st and the 9th week of the year, two of the three festival times when all 24 courses served occurred. Therefore, the course of Abijah, the 8th course, would serve its first regular week during the 9th or 10th week of the year (depending on how the Feast of Weeks fell on the calendar).

For reference, here is an annotated Jewish calendar (http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/calendar_birth.htm) for the period of time under consideration.







Zacharias' wife Elizabeth would have conceived John the Baptist shortly following the week of his service at the Temple. This would have been sometime in late Sivan or early Tammuz.









Now let's switch our focus and take a look at Elizabeth's young relative, Mary:LUKE 1:26 Now in the sixth month [of Elizabeth's pregnancy] the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, 27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin's name was Mary. 28 And having come in, the angel said to her, "Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!" 29 But when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and considered what manner of greeting this was. 30 Then the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. 32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end." 34 Then Mary said to the angel, "How can this be, since I do not know a man?" 35 And the angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God. 36 Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing will be impossible." 38 Then Mary said, "Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word." And the angel departed from her. (NKJV)

The Holy Spirit likely overshadowed Mary very soon after her encounter with the angel Gabriel. If John the Baptist was conceived in the two week period after Sivan 19, Jesus would have been conceived about six months later, at the end of the Hebrew month Kislev or the beginning of the month Tevet. Mary would probably have conceived Jesus sometime from Kislev 24 to Tevet 7. Kislev 25 is the beginning of the Feast of Chanukah, also known as the Festival of Lights. This eight-day feast continues to Tevet 2.









Jesus observed the Feast of Chanukah (also called the "Feast of Dedication" in John 10:22) while he was on earth. John gives us an indication that Jesus was in fact conceived during the Festival of Lights (Chanukah) when he speaks of him at the beginning of his Gospel:JOHN 1:4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that light, but was sent to bear witness of that light. 9 That was the true light which gives light to every man coming into the world. (NKJV)









Quickly after Gabriel's visit, Mary went to see her relative Elizabeth:LUKE 1:39 Now Mary arose in those days and went into the hill country with haste, to a city of Judah, 40 and entered the house of Zacharias and greeted Elizabeth. 41 And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. (NKJV) LUKE 1:56 And Mary remained with her about three months, and returned to her house. (NKJV)









It appears that Mary stayed with Elizabeth right up to the time for her to give birth. The average time for the gestation of a human baby is nine months/40 weeks/280 days. Nine months from the time of John's conception in early Tamuz would bring us to Passover of the Jewish year 3756 in the 1st month called Nisan. This Hebrew date fell in the month of March in 5 B.C.E.LUKE 1:57 Now Elizabeth's full time came for her to be delivered, and she brought forth a son. (NKJV)

It's highly symbolic that John the Baptist was born at the time of Passover. Even to this very day, there is still an expectation by religious Jews of the coming of Elijah the prophet during the time of Passover (Mal. 4:5-6). In fact, a cup is set for Elijah at the annual Passover seder, and children symbolically check for him at the door during the service. As Gabriel prophesied and Jesus confirmed (Matt. 11:14), John the Baptist was the preliminary Elijah to come before the Messiah.

Signs in the heavens over Jerusalem on the 15th of Nisan in the Jewish year 3756 heralded the birth of John the Baptist. On that night, just after sunset, a spectacular lunar eclipse was visible from Jerusalem.



Since Jesus was conceived during Chanukah, six months after John the Baptist, he would also have been born six months after John:LUKE 2:1 And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. 2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria. 3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city. 4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David, 5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. 6 So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered. 7 And she brought forth her firstborn Son, and wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. (NKJV)

Since John was born on Passover, the 15th day of Nisan (the 1st Jewish month), Jesus would have been born six months later on the 15th day of Tishri (the 7th Jewish month). The 15th day of the 7th month begins the Feast of Tabernacles (Lev. 23:34-35), also known as Sukkot. Jesus was born on the 1st day of the Feast of Tabernacles! In the year 5 B.C.E., this fell in the month of September.

This explains why there was no room at the inn for Joseph and Mary. A multitude of Jewish pilgrims from all over the Middle East had come to Jerusalem to observe the Feast of Tabernacles, as God required (Deu. 16:16). Bethlehem, which was only a few miles outside of Jerusalem, was also overflowing with visitors at this time because of the Feast.




HTH

So we agree the date was zero then?

I thought she said it was September 5BCE.

Lol you lot! I'd love to be having this conversation round a pub table, it's hilarious :laugh:

I was thinking about this time machine malarkey and it's very sad because I honestly can't think of anywhere I'd like to go or anything I'd like to change. I suppose (being serious for a minute) that's because I kind of think that your experiences shape you into who and what you are, and the way that you view life, that horrible though some of them were, I wouldn't want to have not had them. I'll admit there's one I could have lived without, which I'll not go into, but that one, nasty though it was, has had the biggest and most positive influence on the way I live my life...so I dunno. I like to think that no experiences are wholly negative and that you get something out of every one, even if it's a lesson not to go there again.

Might be interesting to go back 2000 years and see if Jesus really did perform those miracles.

bluddy hell SF, I saw the title of this thread and KNEW exactly what I would post before I read anyone elses reply, and you have gorn and beaten me to it :rolleyes: :wink2:

Right, Im off to read the rest as it looks interesting!!!!!

I thought she said it was September 5BCE.

I didn't read it. I tend not to bother with cut and pastes from Google.

I was going for the logical approach.

I found it quite interesting actually, but then I read it. :bye:

I was going for the logical approach.

You're wasting your time on here then.

Time Travel


Where would you go

Forward 50yrs - Buy a sporting almanac!
(Back to the Future)


would you change things

I'd see whats fupars had been made and try and warn others when I got back...
(The Terminator)


What would you take with you

Enough Plutomium for the return journey....
(Back to the Future)

You're wasting your time on here then.
:laugh: :laugh:

Well, technically, I would guess it would have been 0, but I realise you're not really interested in anything other than taking the ****.

I like the cut of your jib, longshot!! :thumbsup:

1000 odd years before Christ?

No sorry, have nae a clue.

See he was trying to stop the birth of Christ by going after her great great great great grandmother

Just resurrecting this thread, to say that I don't think I'd really like the ability to time travel. if I did, I would be too tempted to go forwards to see how long I wil live for and how I die, and I would hate to know in advance! I'd also want to see my children's future, but to be honest I think it would be just as bad to know that too!

I'd go back to the early days of the lottery when the prizes were huge.

I'd change my numbers

I'd take the winning numbers with me.

:bag:

I'd go back to last year when I met my girlfriend (now ex), so I could enjoy the time we had together all over again :cry:

I think I'd go back to 1993, when I was incredibly fit and slim, and stay that way instead of stuffing myself with junk food when I left home and then having to move heaven and earth to get fit and healthy again. (Whether the scales will ever say 8 and a half stones again unless I'm technically dead is of course another matter).

I would hate to see into the future! how depressing would that be? I don't think anyone would be happy with knowing what was to happen before it did. i certainly wouldn't.

I think I'd go back to 1993, when I was incredibly fit and slim, and stay that way instead of stuffing myself with junk food when I left home and then having to move heaven and earth to get fit and healthy again. (Whether the scales will ever say 8 and a half stones again unless I'm technically dead is of course another matter).

8 and half stone thats no good one good thrust and you would brake in two