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I’ve been bitten by snakes. Couple of days ago I thought I was depressed. But it wasn’t depression.
We all know there are snakes in the undergrowth of life. Come on, we all know. Most of us are live-and-let-live people who don’t go around snake-stomping just for the fun of it because, face it, it’s not. Thrilling maybe, briefly, but not fun.
Some people prefer to look away from an attack. They don’t like to be upset. Hell, some even walk away and leave the bitten one writhing on the ground. Takes all sorts.
So, that’s what was wrong with me. Not depression. Venom. Really bug gers up your sense of humour, that.
Pretty quickly, though, a group of experienced walkers found me and administered first aid. Bless them. They sucked the venom out and got me home safely.
I’m going to rest up for a while and recover. Don’t think it’ll take me very long at all.
Never know. I might come back as a mongoose. :)
Coastie 06-08-2005, 09:19 AM Flippin' eck Dabbydoos!
I sincerely hope the people did not suck out the venom....that is a no no in the world of snake bites as basically they are infecting themselves.... In future apply pressure above the bite to slow the flow of the poison through the system, apply cold compress if you have one handy, and seek urgent medical attention..... oh and it's not just the venom that can make your world go schmooey...the fangs of snakes are often covered in nasties as a result if their diet!
Keep a close eye on the bite for any sign of icky infection, increased redness around the bite, swelling etc and keep it clean!
In the meantime...have a :hug: from me!
Blimey Riley Dab :ohmy: - I have never known anyone be bitten by a snake, how dreadful [but a very little bit exciting nonetheless]. Did it hurt? I probably thought it was a horsefly or a nettle sting - yuck poor you!!!
Take it easy won't you??
karenh 06-08-2005, 09:56 AM Well, I hope you recover soon Dabster.
But I gotta be honest - I don't really "get" your post. Is this imagery? If so, but I'm rubbish with subtlety. It just whooshes right over my head......
I may be barking up the wrong tree entirely, but it seems like you are saying that someone or some people have been attacking and persecuting you for....fun? And that some people just watched or walked on by, whereas others stayed to offer help/support. Is that so?
If so, than I'm really sorry to hear that. Is this in your real life, or are you talking about people on the forum?
Bella 06-08-2005, 10:24 AM Hope you recover soon Dab! Snakebites can be nasty! :hug:
mazwad 06-08-2005, 12:25 PM I read it the same way as you Karen. I hope you can get rid Dabby best way is to grab them behind the the head and just chuck them out, in your mind if physically is not possible. xxx
Critique 06-08-2005, 01:09 PM I, too, tended to think that this was a sort of analogy and that poor Dab has been "bitten" by some human unkindness.
If so Dab, I hope knowing everyone here is on your side will help as an antidote. (((Hugs))) Mandy
Coastie 06-08-2005, 02:36 PM As a result of trying to work a life saving incident and follow this board Coastie once again gets the wrong end of the stick and misses the point entirely... :blush:
I, too, tended to think that this was a sort of analogy and that poor Dab has been "bitten" by some human unkindness.
oops. I am sorry to hear that - I have to say I was a very little bit excited that I knew someone had been bitten by a snake. It sounds terribly adventurous and romantic. I think the only poisonous snake in the UK is the Adder - and I once stood on one accidentally, thankfully it didn't bite me though - on account it was dead and squashed having been run over.
Fee For All 06-08-2005, 04:19 PM We had zillions of the boogers where I grew up! In fact some kid who was on holiday tried to play with one, got bitten and had to have his arm amputated, so it's not very exciting at all.:ohmy:
None of the local kids were allowed to go roaming without either wellies or 'snake boots' - normally canvas baseball boots and thick socks - in case we tripped over one.
Sorry, that's gone really off topic. :blush: I hope it wasn't a real snake bite that you had dab, as that would be very worrying. I'm sure you'll be back on top soon.
I have never seen a real snake (unless you count at the zoo or on the TV) and I don't think I want to either.
I hope you feel better soon dab!
Coastie 06-08-2005, 06:10 PM When I was in Junior School my caretakers son kept snakes and he used to bring them in on occasion for us to see and hold...lovely...I have held numerous snakes since...big ones and small ones and used to catch slow worms as a kid! :kid:
Andrea 06-08-2005, 09:27 PM Dab, hope that snake bite hasn't hit you too bad, and hope you'll be feeling alot better soon enough. :hug:
Voice of reason 06-08-2005, 09:29 PM Hurry back soon Dab :)
Patsy 07-08-2005, 09:50 PM I believe if you've been bitten by a snake and it's not fatal, you will recover with time and rest.
The best way to avoid being bitten again - stay away from snakes.
Coastie 07-08-2005, 10:49 PM DAB COME BACK!
Bella 08-08-2005, 07:03 AM I am sure Dab will be back after a wee bit of rest. He probably just needs a wee bit of time to get over the nasty snake-bites. A bite can leave you feeling a little disillusioned, but he'll be back fitting fit in no time! :)
Bonsai 08-08-2005, 02:19 PM I thought this thread was about that disgusting drink i used to have as a teenager. Did anyone else have it ? I cant remember what it was made from - lager and blackcurrant wasnt it .... and was cider in it too :ohmy:
Bella 08-08-2005, 03:50 PM I thought this thread was about that disgusting drink i used to have as a teenager. Did anyone else have it ? I cant remember what it was made from - lager and blackcurrant wasnt it .... and was cider in it too :ohmy:
Yes, Bonnie it was lager & cider. It was cheap so as a very poor student, I admit to drinking quite a few snakebites! I think...I may wrong....but it is banned is some place as it pretty lethal if you have one too many.
:w00t: I used to enjoy a pint of frothy snakebite...revolting but oh so did the trick when young and no money, you could have blackcurrent in it...but some people used to sink a little liqueur glass of whiskey or something in it.
tigger 08-08-2005, 06:47 PM Oh Dabbydoo! I look forward to seeing you back soon. In the meantime, big hugs from me and hope that things get better for you. :)
jaycee 08-08-2005, 08:29 PM Dabs, I don't know if we are talking real snakes or snake in the grass people but I hope you are better soon whichever is the case :hug:
karenh 09-08-2005, 08:29 AM Dab - you're online!!!! Does this mean you are feeling better?
A lot of people have been concerned for you babes. Are you going to reply to this thread?
Thanks for your kind wishes.
Karen, Maz, Crit: you read me right, of course. The snakes that bit me are of the human variety, here on the forum.
Patsy: I won’t live like that, either in real life or here. I won’t “stay away” from a snake that attacks me. I’ll do what comes natural. I’ll take its head off.
Call me Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, if you like.
At the hole where he went in
Red-Eye called to Wrinkle-Skin.
Hear what little Red-Eye saith:
"Nag, come up and dance with death!"
Eye to eye and head to head,
(Keep the measure, Nag.)
This shall end when one is dead;
(At thy pleasure, Nag.)
Turn for turn and twist for twist-
(Run and hide thee, Nag.)
Hah! The hooded Death has missed!
(Woe betide thee, Nag!)
The lovely messages of concern and support I’ve received from forum members tell me that people who have been around for a while know exactly who the queen snake is. Newbies will learn. Everyone gets it sooner or later, even those who hear and believe all her tales of victimhood when first they hear them. Especially those, actually!
Eventually, most people start to wonder about the pattern. Some will look more closely, listen more wisely. And when they finally start to talk to respected SO long timers about her, they will see the three-year trail of manipulation, deception, misery and spite that she drags behind her. They will observe that however malicious and vindictive she can be in private, she always works hard to appear innocent and vulnerable in front of witnesses.
Aristotle said, “We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is a habit, not an act.”
That wisdom works from the other end, too:
We are what we repeatedly do. Nastiness, then, is a habit, not an act.
When you see her for what she is: beware! That’s when you’re getting close to the fangs. That’s when she’ll manipulate the perceptions of her current support team and convince them that:
you’re her new tormenter;
you’re the latest in a long line of former friends who have turned against her;
you’re the one who has finally shown his or her true colours;
you’re the bully they should shun; and
you’re the member for whom they should make life on SO quietly, secretly, unpleasant - in the hope that you will follow all the others who have left the forum rather than endure her remote-controlled venom.
Isn’t that so, ********** ?
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Bonsai 09-08-2005, 09:36 AM Hmmmmm, excuse my ignorance, but who are you talking about ????
Its good to see you are still here Dab :thumbsup:
Hmmmmm, excuse my ignorance, but who are you talking about ????
Its good to see you are still here Dab :thumbsup:
Thanks Bonnie. I'll abide by Haydon's decision so you'll have to get the name from someone else, mate.
Bonsai 09-08-2005, 09:40 AM Thanks Bonnie. I'll abide by Haydon's decision so you'll have to get the name from someone else, mate.
Okey dokey ...... dont want to put anyone on the spot :bag:
karenh 09-08-2005, 09:41 AM Oh FFS Haydon. Don't leave the post there but edit out the name! What is the point in that! :laugh: It just gets everyone pondering.
Edited: I was being very naughty.
Groucho 09-08-2005, 09:49 AM :sleepy: It's just a message board......
karenh 09-08-2005, 10:08 AM :sleepy: It's just a message board......
No Groucho. To many people, it is real life. Jeez! Just because YOU have no emotional investment in this place......
Bonsai 09-08-2005, 10:17 AM No Groucho. To many people, it is real life. Jeez! Just because YOU have no emotional investment in this place......
I dont know if you were being sarcastic or not (im feeling thick today), but i agree with what you say. To me this isnt just a message board either, a lot of people on here are mates, and i dont like the thought of any of them being upset. This MB is a part (albeit small) of my life, and i hold it dear.
Groucho 09-08-2005, 10:29 AM I'm obviously an emotionally cold person. :glare:
karenh 09-08-2005, 10:59 AM I was being a bit sarky Bonnie, but your reply has made me feel cr@p for it.
Because you're right! To a lot of people, this forum means a great deal. I do have a tendency to slightly ridicule that fact sometimes (e.g. earlier sarky post), and its bluddy horrid and arrogant of me. Who the heck do I think I am to assume that I can ridicule the people to whom this forum is important?
I have been incapacitated with a bad back for the last few days, and during that time I have come to rely on this forum for my social interraction. In the space of a few days, I have come to see how SO can become the pivot on which human contact revolves and its a real insight into how important this place can become to people.
Everyone has a place here. Live and let live.
Groucho 09-08-2005, 11:19 AM Everyone has a place here. Live and let live.
That cuts both ways though Karen.
karenh 09-08-2005, 11:23 AM That cuts both ways though Karen.
Yeah, 'course it does. I'm not sure what you're saying though Grouch. Have I failed too see one side of the equation?
I'm not having a go. Am genuinely interested.
Btw - my earlier sarky joke fell flat. I wasn't genuinely suggesting that you were "emotionally cold".
Bonsai 09-08-2005, 11:28 AM I was being a bit sarky Bonnie, but your reply has made me feel cr@p for it.
Oooooops sorry, that wasnt my intention :oops: (doncha just love this smilie)
Groucho 09-08-2005, 11:28 AM I'm saying that alot of people come here for a bit of a laugh and a bit of light relief.
They dont necessarily want to trawl through the minutia of people's innermost feelings.
Bonsai 09-08-2005, 11:30 AM I'm saying that alot of people come here for a bit of a laugh and a bit of light relief.
They dont necessarily want to trawl through the minutia of people's innermost feelings.
Totally agree with you, BUT some people like the intimacy that a forum can generate. Some people reveal more about their personal lives - others are a closed book. Each to their own. But dont be sarky about other posters who arent identical to you, the board would be a boring place if we were clones of one another.
Groucho 09-08-2005, 11:37 AM I wasn't being sarcastic. I was being realistic.
karenh 09-08-2005, 11:45 AM I'm saying that alot of people come here for a bit of a laugh and a bit of light relief.
They dont necessarily want to trawl through the minutia of people's innermost feelings.
Fair enough. I understand that. I can be "deep", but sometimes this place has more "depth" than I would like. There have definitely been times when I have felt uncomfortable with other peoples honesty on the forum and I have read things that I would rather not know.
But, that is the nature of forums. You can't control what people post and some like it "deep" whereas others like it "shallow".
Like I said, there is room for all.
Dolores 09-08-2005, 11:47 AM <$%£^^*(*&^ > I'm surprised that Haydon only edited out the name ... I'd have deleted the whole thread.
Got what you wanted out of it? The undivided attention of the forum and a few sympathy pm's? well done you!
DO NOT PM ME I'M NOT INTERESTED!
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Och, I thought this was going to be about the drink aswell. Mmmm I love a good pint of snakebite.
Anyway, this thread is getting out of order.
Dolores 09-08-2005, 12:58 PM Och, I thought this was going to be about the drink aswell. Mmmm I love a good pint of snakebite.
Anyway, this thread is getting out of order.
I know what you're thinking PJ! .... I go away for five minutes and look what happens!
I know what you're thinking PJ! .... I go away for five minutes and look what happens!
Yes, obviously my presence is needed to ensure this MB stays calm and friendly :whistling
karenh 09-08-2005, 01:28 PM Yes, obviously my presence is needed to ensure this MB stays calm and friendly :whistling
Hey....you go on kiding youself Peej.....
Nice to see you back. :D
karenh 09-08-2005, 01:34 PM Sorry. Don't want to get involved. Might say it later, I dunno....
karenh 09-08-2005, 03:22 PM OK. Now I'm going to say it....
I'm really wondering at the point of this thread. Its an obvious attack on another poster (whether you saw the "victims" name or not), but....what is the objective here? I don't get it.
Threads tend to be started to prompt a response, so with that in mind what could be the desired response to this one?
Are we expected to jump in and agree? Or spring to the defence of the "victim"? Hound them off the board, perhaps. But its a bit difficult to defend or support a "snake in the grass" without knowing why are they are accused of being one.
To be honest, as it stands it is hard to see this thread as anything other than deliberate attempt to create bad feeling against another individual. Sorry Dabs - I have nothing against you personally and I ain't taking sides - but that is my view. Does anyone disagree? Am I missing the point?
I don't know the history behind this thread. (I am assuming here that there is a history and this thread is not pure, unprovoked malice). But I will say one thing. Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of the history and the people involved, only 1 of them has brought this "issue" to the public arena and invited comment.
But...why?
And while I'm in the mood for honesty, I have to say that the whole thread has been a bit.........sneaky and snakey. And its a bit rich to call someone a "snake" in a sneaky, snakey way. :wacko: All that innuendo and analogy. WTF! For Gods sake, if you are gonna slag someone off in the open, then don't slink around about it!
survivorfan 09-08-2005, 03:45 PM Looks to me like something has p'd dab off and he decided to write about it in his own way - and we all have our own style. As for what is the desired response, maybe there isn't one, but nevertheless it's prompted quite a few replies, so it seems to have sparked a bit of interest. If the thread has got heated I say look to the posters, not the thread starter.
karenh 09-08-2005, 04:03 PM .... As for what is the desired response, maybe there isn't one....
So, random whittering????? (That's not what I think btw - its just the only alternative to "no objective at all"). Personally, I am inclined to doubt that there was no objective to such a considered analogy.
If the thread has got heated....
Which it hasn't....
...I say look to the posters, not the thread starter.
Do you? :wacko: Well, I suppose you would if you think that the poster had no objective.
Dolores 09-08-2005, 05:28 PM I'd like to know who's Dab's research assistants were ... as he is going back three years and he's only been on here 10 months ... it's just a question that might be worth asking ... rather than pondering over how other posters have responded to this thread ... just looking for a direction for this to go in really, that might ease the pain that Dab is feeling (to say nothing of the pain he has caused).
karenh 09-08-2005, 05:34 PM I'd like to know who's Dab's research assistants were ... as he is going back three years and he's only been on here 10 months ... it's just a question that might be worth asking ... rather than pondering over how other posters have responded to this thread ... just looking for a direction for this to go in really, that might ease the pain that Dab is feeling (to say nothing of the pain he has caused).
Actually, that is a very f.cuking valid question!
Any one for tennis..pot of tea perhaps?
:bye:
Bonsai 09-08-2005, 05:37 PM Actually, that is a very f.cuking valid question!
Hmmmm, i hadnt thought of that, and it is valid yeah.
Dolores 09-08-2005, 05:38 PM Hmmmm, i hadnt thought of that, and it is valid yeah.
I wouldn't hold your breath expecting it to be answered.... we'll just guess and add more fevered speculation to this rather gorgeous thread!
survivorfan 09-08-2005, 06:01 PM So, random whittering????? (That's not what I think btw - its just the only alternative to "no objective at all"). Personally, I am inclined to doubt that there was no objective to such a considered analogy..
Well maybe he needed to get something off his chest. So what? People do it all the time here.
Patsy 09-08-2005, 06:03 PM The last outburst I can remember like that was HJ's epic exit. How can you come back from that? It's all very sad.
Dolores 09-08-2005, 06:13 PM The last outburst I can remember like that was HJ's epic exit. How can you come back from that? It's all very sad.
You can if you have proved to be a valid poster in the past ... and Dab will come back ... he will rise from the ashes of this like the Phoenix!
...anyway HJ was banned as I remember. (and I don't remember an epic exit?!)
Dolores 09-08-2005, 06:15 PM Well maybe he needed to get something off his chest. So what? People do it all the time here.
no they don't ... when was the last time someone started such a convulted thread and expected lots and lots of support? when?
karenh 09-08-2005, 06:15 PM Well maybe he needed to get something off his chest. So what? People do it all the time here.
Yeah, about innocuous matters and they do to muster support. Which is what I suspect Dab was doing here.....
I'm really sorry that Dab feels such a strong dislike for another poster, but I'm equally sorry that he felt the need to shout about it from the rooftops without explaining why. The proper medium for getting such personal feelings off his chest is via PM or email.
Everyone has the right to a personal opinion about other posters, and I accept that some of those opinions will be negative. But to make a public statement about such feelings amounts to nothing more than a personal attack. Frankly it bears the hallmarks of.....bullying, basically.
This is just my perspective and I accept that it will differ from other peoples.
Maybe, as the instigator of this thread, we should wait for Dab to reply rather than trying to second-guess anything he might be trying to say. Just a thought.
Dolores 09-08-2005, 06:20 PM Maybe, as the instigator of this thread, we should wait for Dab to reply rather than trying to second-guess anything he might be trying to say. Just a thought.
fair point Nox ... but to be honest I think Dab will be getting quite a kick out of the speculation ... and I doubt he will add anything to it now.
Groucho 09-08-2005, 06:22 PM Maybe, as the instigator of this thread, we should wait for Dab to reply rather than trying to second-guess anything he might be trying to say. Just a thought.
Aw, where's the fun in that Foxy? :ninja:
Groucho 09-08-2005, 06:24 PM no they don't ... when was the last time someone started such a convulted thread and expected lots and lots of support? when?
Oh, Miss....Miss *holding hand up* I think I know this one......... :w00t:
Dolores 09-08-2005, 06:28 PM Oh, Miss....Miss *holding hand up* I think I know this one......... :w00t:
ok... you at the back of the class ... what's the answer!!! rotflmfao!!!!
:w00t:
Patsy 09-08-2005, 06:38 PM Probably because you heard me say it already? Jeez! :glare:
survivorfan 09-08-2005, 06:50 PM The proper medium for getting such personal feelings off his chest is via PM or email.
Is it? I thought we prided ourselves on what an open community this is. Or was that in the past?
Groucho 09-08-2005, 06:52 PM Is it? I thought we prided ourselves on what an open community this is.
You're having a laugh aren't you SF?
Sometimes I log on and everyone is PM'ing! :glare:
secrets 09-08-2005, 06:54 PM I'm really sorry that Dab feels such a strong dislike for another poster, but I'm equally sorry that he felt the need to shout about it from the rooftops without explaining why. The proper medium for getting such personal feelings off his chest is via PM or email.
Are you saying that Dab should say why in this thread Karenh?
(Assuming he was allowed.)
And would that be fair?
karenh 09-08-2005, 06:57 PM Is it? I thought we prided ourselves on what an open community this is.
Do we really? I had no idea......
PS - Pot. Kettle. Black. etc.
Explain please.....
When the f.cuk have I ever started a thread purely to launch an unsolicited, direct, personal attack on another poster SF? Because that is, of course, what you are insinuating......
Dolores 09-08-2005, 06:58 PM Is it? I thought we prided ourselves on what an open community this is. Or was that in the past?
hey! compared to the old days this IS an open community ... when did you know such a potentially contentious thread go on for so long? it would have been shut down long ago or ....
survivorfan 09-08-2005, 06:58 PM no they don't ... when was the last time someone started such a convulted thread and expected lots and lots of support? when?
Not being obtuse here but ... how do you know what he was expecting? From what I know of Dab it must have really taken something to make him post this way. As far as reasons why ...it might just have been a case of wanting to send a message to someone. You just can't make assumptions like yours and use them as a reason to lay into him, it just doesn't follow.
Patsy 09-08-2005, 07:00 PM ...anyway HJ was banned as I remember. (and I don't remember an epic exit?!)
I do. My genitals were brought into question. :sad:
DON'T SNIGGER! :boxing:
Dolores 09-08-2005, 07:00 PM Not being obtuse here but ... how do you know what he was expecting? From what I know of Dab it must have really taken something to make him post this way. As far as reasons why ...it might just have been a case of wanting to send a message to someone. You just can't make assumptions like yours and use them as a reason to lay into him, it just doesn't follow.
From what I know of Dab it was EXACTLY what he was expecting ... but we each have different knowledge on the same subject ... I can accept that.
survivorfan 09-08-2005, 07:02 PM When the f.cuk have I ever started a thread purely to launch an unsolicited, direct, personal attack on another poster SF? Because that is, of course, what you are insinuating......
Well, no I'm not, because this thread isn't an unsolicited, direct, personal attack, except in your mind. Is it?
Dolores 09-08-2005, 07:02 PM I do. My genitals were brought into question. :sad:
DON'T SNIGGER! :boxing:
sorry, but I am sniggering! I'd forgotten all about that! what was it he said again? something about your kebab and being unattractive?!
actually that particular gem got wiped off the board before I had chance to see it! the post that is not your ugly kebab!!!
<<edit: omg! I want to make it quite clear that I have never seen Patsy's ugly kebab even though I'm quite sure it is a lovely kebab ... as far as kebabs go!!!>>
Dolores 09-08-2005, 07:03 PM Well, no I'm not, because this thread isn't an unsolicited, direct, personal attack, except in your mind.
see his post half way through the thread SF ... exactly what part of that isn't an unsolicited, direct, personal attack?
... but stop now SF ... cos you are defending the indefensible.
karenh 09-08-2005, 07:07 PM Are you saying that Dab should say why in this thread Karenh?
(Assuming he was allowed.)
No, not really.
Mostly I am saying is that it is completely unfair of him to start a thread to state his negative personal opinion about another poster publicly. But...it is even worse that does not say why. He just states that XXXXX is a "snake in the grass", and implies that he has had detailed conversations with other people about her who agree with him.
And would that be fair?
Fairer than just branding someone.......
survivorfan 09-08-2005, 07:07 PM see his post half way through the thread SF ... exactly what part of that isn't an unsolicited, direct, personal attack?
I don't know Dol. The whole thing might simply be a statement of fact.
Dolores 09-08-2005, 07:08 PM I don't know Dol. The whole thing might simply be a statement of fact.
BS SF!
.
Patsy 09-08-2005, 07:08 PM I think the first post was a cry for help and his way of warning people of what he saw as potential dangers. He clearly felt that he needed to share whatever pain he was in. That, in the main, was taken for what it was and he did receive a lot of supportive and reassuring posts (those who actually understood it :w00t: ). Whatever support he had received under private cover was obviously not enough for him.
However, the post today was, in my opinion, completely counter-productive and would have lost him much of the support he had previously received. This is why I don't understand his reason for doing it if he is planning to return. I'll bet he's logged on as a guest right now to see what effect he's having.
I don't think he will be feeling good about himself and I also don't think he will feel good about any pain he has caused anyone else.
Having said all this, when the dust settles and if he does return, I will not be mentioning any of it because I don't believe it is my place to do so and it is an episode which I would rather forget.
Dolores 09-08-2005, 07:12 PM I think the first post was a cry for help and his way of warning people of what he saw as potential dangers. He clearly felt that he needed to share whatever pain he was in. That, in the main, was taken for what it was and he did receive a lot of supportive and reassuring posts (those who actually understood it :w00t: ). Whatever support he had received under private cover was obviously not enough for him.
However, the post today was, in my opinion, completely counter-productive and would have lost him much of the support he had previously received. This is why I don't understand his reason for doing it if he is planning to return. I'll bet he's logged on as a guest right now to see what effect he's having.
I don't think he will be feeling good about himself and I also don't think he will feel good about any pain he has caused anyone else.
Having said all this, when the dust settles and if he does return, I will not be mentioning any of it because I don't believe it is my place to do so and it is an episode which I would rather forget.
Patsy, I'm sorry but the last thing we need now is a well thought out post! :w00t:
survivorfan 09-08-2005, 07:13 PM BS SF!
.
Well, Dol, not wishing to prolong this but - we just don't know - do we?
Patsy 09-08-2005, 07:13 PM Well I thought the thread required some intelligent input. :ninja:
Dolores 09-08-2005, 07:15 PM Well I thought the thread required some intelligent input. :ninja:
it did ...but who had bets that it would be you that gave it! :w00t: (J/K!)
Patsy 09-08-2005, 07:17 PM it did ...but who had bets that it would be you that gave it! :w00t: (J/K!)
Someone equally as intelligent, obviously. :naughty:
karenh 09-08-2005, 07:19 PM Edit: sounded more heated than I intended.
survivorfan 09-08-2005, 07:25 PM Edit: sounded more heated than I intended.
Go for it girl!
Dolores 09-08-2005, 07:27 PM Edit: sounded more heated than I intended.
I saw it! ner ner! it wasn't heated at all! it asked some jolly sensible questions! where's that bravery you bandied about a while back!! relcaim your spine!
Patsy 09-08-2005, 07:28 PM I saw it too. What did you call him. An aggravating what?......... :w00t:
karenh 09-08-2005, 07:29 PM Go for it girl!
I can't remember it word for word, but actually, I think I've just run out of steam.
My enthusiasm for these kind of "debates" wears thinner these days.......
karenh 09-08-2005, 07:31 PM I saw it too. What did you call him. An aggravating what?......... :w00t:
Oi - I didn't call anyone any names.
Patsy 09-08-2005, 07:34 PM Tee hee! I know, poppet, just joshin'. You raised some valid points which I think you should share.
karenh 09-08-2005, 07:35 PM Hehehe - I've just looked at the online list. We have more members online tonight than we've had for ages, and guess which thread they are nearly all reading........
Clue: It ain't the "What did you have for Lunch" thread! :laugh:
Dolores 09-08-2005, 07:36 PM Hehehe - I've just looked at the online list. We have more members online tonight than we've had for ages, and guess which thread they are nearly all reading........
Clue: It ain't the "What did you have for Lunch" thread! :laugh:
yeh it's great isn't it!!! in the good old days they would have just chucked us in a vat of leeches to get the bad blood out of our systems!!!!
karenh 09-08-2005, 07:37 PM Tee hee! I know, poppet, just joshin'. You raised some valid points which I think you should share.
Ooh cheers. The thing is babe, I can't remember what the valid points were. And I'm not even drunk!
Besides, I think I've said everything I want to say on this subject. No point in flogging a dead horse....
Critique 09-08-2005, 07:39 PM Hehehe - I've just looked at the online list. We have more members online tonight than we've had for ages, and guess which thread they are nearly all reading........
Clue: It ain't the "What did you have for Lunch" thread! :laugh:
Guilty m'lud - just bewildered as to what it's all about :ninja:
karenh 09-08-2005, 07:40 PM Guilty m'lud - just bewildered as to what it's all about :ninja:
Well, you and me both Crit.
But - and I'm guessing here - I think there is a poster on the forum that Dab isn't that keen on.....
Patsy 09-08-2005, 07:40 PM Second b should be a d Cat. Edit it quickly.
Patsy 09-08-2005, 07:41 PM Well, you and me both Crit.
But - and I'm guessing here - I think there is a poster on the forum that Dab isn't that keen on.....
Sharp as a little shiney tack, karen. :thumbsup:
Dolores 09-08-2005, 07:44 PM Well, you and me both Crit.
But - and I'm guessing here - I think there is a poster on the forum that Dab isn't that keen on.....
you are so off beam Karen. It is about snakebites ... read the goddam title lady! tut!
shooting off on another vein here ... how daft do those amongst us feel who took this thread at face value and who proferred honest advice on snakebites?!
secrets 09-08-2005, 07:45 PM Babminton then?
How about a dance?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/secrets33/thi86648299_31428.gif
survivorfan 09-08-2005, 07:45 PM Well, you and me both Crit.
You on painkillers for that bad back? Making you a bit fuzzy?
mazwad 09-08-2005, 07:48 PM Well I have been glued to it too that was after phoning Crit to see if she knew what it was all about.
I will also admit to looking through the members list to see if there is a female with 10 letters in her name whos been posting for 3 years.
So call me inquisitive, nosey or just plain shallow I have a thick skin but just tell me has Haydon put more stars than there is letters in the name of the guilty party. It's an interesting puzzle that I am dying to solve.
Marmoset 09-08-2005, 07:51 PM Maz...
Thats us out OF THE FRAME ANYWAY ! :)
M
secrets 09-08-2005, 07:51 PM I will also admit to looking through the members list to see if there is a female with 10 letters in her name whos been posting for 3 years.
So call me inquisitive, nosey or just plain shallow I have a thick skin but just tell me has Haydon put more stars than there is letters in the name of the guilty party.
I concur - and i know everyone.
*Unless it's a 'real' name.:wink2: *
Second b should be a d Cat. Edit it quickly.
Badminton
Bad.
Pooh
mazwad 09-08-2005, 07:54 PM I concur - and i know everyone.
*Unless it's a 'real' name.:wink2: *
Hmmmmmmmmm never thought of that now you'll set me off again which would be a hopeless task as I don't know many.
Dolores 09-08-2005, 07:54 PM I concur - and i know everyone.
*Unless it's a 'real' name.:wink2: *
omg how many asterisks did it have?
C*h*r*i*s*t*i*n*e* ... that's nine I counted ... am I off the hook?
How about a dance?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/secrets33/thi86648299_31428.gif
Okay...have you made any sandwiches?
Critique 09-08-2005, 07:57 PM Okay...have you made any sandwiches?
Sandwiches - that's 10 letters - is it a clue? lmao
secrets 09-08-2005, 07:57 PM Okay...have you made any sandwiches?
Who needs sandwiches?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/secrets33/thdance.gif
Dolores 09-08-2005, 07:59 PM you’re the member for whom they should make life on SO quietly, secretly, unpleasant - in the hope that you will follow all the others who have left the forum rather than endure her remote-controlled venom.
please come back Dab ... just to confirm that you are the member that won't be coming back this time!
well done ********* another bad egg down and out!
secrets 09-08-2005, 07:59 PM I don't have time to eat.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/secrets33/thth1.gif
secrets 09-08-2005, 08:01 PM please come back Dab ... just to confirm that you are the member that won't be coming back this time!
well done ********* another bad egg down and out!
Aww Dol - now Maz has to check the members list again!
I don't have time to eat.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/secrets33/thth1.gif
Blimey Secrets! Eat my sandwiches now or you will be bereft of energy.
Daft twit.
karenh 09-08-2005, 08:04 PM You on painkillers for that bad back? Making you a bit fuzzy?
No, more's the pity. No painkillers. No fuzziness
Apart from the fact that I am now aware that Dab doesn't like the poster in question, I really am clueless as to what is behind this thread. I have asked, and the question has not been answered......
secrets 09-08-2005, 08:05 PM Blimey Secrets! Eat my sandwiches now or you will be bereft of energy.
Daft twit.
What have we got?
*That is of course my stuntman - not so daft.:wink2: *
survivorfan 09-08-2005, 08:12 PM No, more's the pity. No painkillers. No fuzziness
Apart from the fact that I am now aware that Dab doesn't like the poster in question, I really am clueless as to what is behind this thread. I have asked, and the question has not been answered......
No doubt I'm going off on an SF tangent now but ... I think some people prefer things spelled out in black and white while others go for more of a read-between-the-lines approach. Karen you're probably more of a black and white gal - but I have to break it to you, you ain't gonna get no black and white answer in this thread.
mazwad 09-08-2005, 08:17 PM Oh well back to the footie then Man U 2 up so MrM is pleased.
karenh 09-08-2005, 08:19 PM .....but I have to break it to you, you ain't gonna get no black and white answer in this thread.
You don't say........
survivorfan 09-08-2005, 08:19 PM You don't say........
I do! it's just that -... you seem to be expecting one.
ahhhrr but Karenh...hang on..I am diving deep for dirt.
look at me go...
http://www.bbc.net.uk/wales/northwest/outdoors/activities/images/diving_200.jpg
Dolores 09-08-2005, 08:33 PM you ain't gonna get no black and white answer in this thread.
oh gosh no I realise that SF ... but the clever oh so subtle way that Dabby worded this thread ... would you adam and eve it some people even gave him advice on how to cope with his snakebites! who'd have thought it! whooosh right over my head with the clever analogy there Dab mate!! (ooh hark at me talking to him like he's ever gonna have the balls to post in this thread!!)
karenh 09-08-2005, 08:33 PM I do! it's just that -... you seem to be expecting one.
Do I? Frankly, answers are the last thing I expect in a thread like this. Vague hints and veiled accusations are more the order of the day......
This thread has been the most interesting thing to happen on this forum for a while and I'm quite glad it happend today while I have nothing better to do. But really SF, right now I couldn't care less about the why and wherefore's of this little intrigue. I'm already bored with it....
Couple of quick points before I take a break.
1. Research assistants, Dol? Only one. The person I talked about in my post. You can't tell me you didn't realise that? Really? Bless...
2. The people who need to know everything - know everything.
See you later. :bye:
survivorfan 10-08-2005, 10:34 AM Can I make a little comment on what I take this thread to be about? It follows on from Groucho's 'it's only a messageboard'. And it's to say that in my view, even if you spend a lot of time here, and have come to think of fellow posters more as a community of friends rathere than just 'posters', nevertheless it can lead to problems if you find yourself getting too seriously involved with people. The reason I say this is that there are still residual 'undercurrents' (Tonee!) and associated ill-feelings lurking on the board, going way way back, with certain grudges not being let go of, and if you get drawn into it, you are likely to become tainted with it yourself. You might not realise it at first, but it's simply a case of be a bit careful what you are getting involved in, try not to be drawn into taking sides, because if you do you might end up regretting it later.
Groucho 10-08-2005, 10:51 AM I agree with him ^^^^^ :cool:
Bonsai 10-08-2005, 10:51 AM I agree with him ^^^^^ :cool:
Blimey - are you feeling ok :unsure:
Groucho 10-08-2005, 10:59 AM I've never taken sides....I'm happy to take the píss out of everyone :wink_kiss
I would like to say that I have nothing useful to add to this thread, but lots of people have posted replies and I just don't want to be left out..... :blush:
Tigereye 10-08-2005, 11:05 AM Well I'm sick and tired of feeling dense, but I have no idea what the fek is going on yet again. Do all these 'ill feelings' and 'grudges' manifest themselves at nightime in chat? or in private messaging?
I am aware of banter in threads that sometimes makes me uncomfortable when it gets out of hand, but I thought that's all it was. I can't find threads [ok maybe dabs one - but it was edited by the time I got there] that are worthy of animosity and unkindness.
just thick I guess. :cry: But I don't like it.
karenh 10-08-2005, 11:08 AM Can I make a little comment on what I take this thread to be about? It follows on from Groucho's 'it's only a messageboard'. And it's to say that in my view, even if you spend a lot of time here, and have come to think of fellow posters more as a community of friends rathere than just 'posters', nevertheless it can lead to problems if you find yourself getting too seriously involved with people. The reason I say this is that there are still residual 'undercurrents' (Tonee!) and associated ill-feelings lurking on the board, going way way back, with certain grudges not being let go of, and if you get drawn into it, you are likely to become tainted with it yourself. You might not realise it at first, but it's simply a case of be a bit careful what you are getting involved in, try not to be drawn into taking sides, because if you do you might end up regretting it later.
Well yes, SF, I would probably agree with you re. undercurrents etc. but I'm not sure what any of that has to do with Dab. Surely you are talking about things which pre-date his membership?
As for "taking sides" - personally I'm not. I'm sure Dab has his reasons for disliking the poster he refers to and I don't regard myself as a particular friend to either of them. But from the point of view of "fair play", I think it is wrong to start a thread to flame another poster as everyone has the right to be judged on their own merits. I regard myself as an adult, and I feel that I am more than capable of forming my own opinion of the other people on this forum.
For the record, I would have felt the same way if XXXXX had started this thread about Dab.
There's nothing wrong with a good old fashioned, public argument though :devil:
survivorfan 10-08-2005, 11:19 AM Well yes, SF, I would probably agree with you re. undercurrents etc. but I'm not sure what any of that has to do with Dab. Surely you are talking about things which pre-date his membership?
Old grudges live on in some quarters, anyone can find themselves involved. All behind the scenes of course, nothing much on the board itself to give an indication of what's happening.
Tigereye 10-08-2005, 11:34 AM . All behind the scenes of course, nothing much on the board itself to give an indication of what's happening.
Aha, that's why I don't know wtf is going on. Surely if it's going on behind the scenes that's where it should stay.The public board shouldn't be used for personal vendettas. It's petty and darnright insulting to those not in the know...
karenh 10-08-2005, 11:40 AM Crikey - a bit of activity on the old Snakey thread and it gets really busy online again! :laugh:
But.....how does everyone know. Have you all got email alerts on this thread or something?
Dolores 10-08-2005, 11:43 AM Couple of quick points before I take a break.
1. Research assistants, Dol? Only one. The person I talked about in my post. You can't tell me you didn't realise that? Really? Bless...
2. The people who need to know everything - know everything.
See you later. :bye:
1. Research assistants, Dol? Only one. The person I talked about in my post. You can't tell me you didn't realise that? Really? Bless...
you implied that someone had given you all this information ... surely not ******** would have revealed all these things to you, and no it wasn't obvious to me.
2. The people who need to know everything - know everything.
HOW pompous of you! And if they know everything they need to know why did you feel the need to start this thread at all?
I kept away from this thread deliberately until your venomous second post cos I didn't want to stir anything up ... but you did that by yourself. I hope you have the courtesy to apologies to those people who offered sincere advice and must now be feeling rather "left out" of your group of "people who know".
See you later.
can't wait...:whistling :sleepy:
Fee For All 10-08-2005, 12:02 PM Aha, that's why I don't know wtf is going on. Surely if it's going on behind the scenes that's where it should stay.The public board shouldn't be used for personal vendettas. It's petty and darnright insulting to those not in the know...
That just about sums it up TE, along with SFs comments about not being drawn into issues that predate your membership. Like Karen, I feel quite able (and prefer) to form my own opinions about people based on first-hand experience and most certainly don't like being patronised by having others' views foisted on me, either publicly or by PM.
Dab will be back, or he won't. Sadly though, whether he returns or not, I feel his actions recently have lost us a 'respected' member.
Bloody good read though :laugh: - Karen, I suspect its the same effect as a traffic jam when we all slow up to look at the car smash. You know you shouldn't, you don't really want to, but hell - you just have to!!
karenh 10-08-2005, 12:06 PM Karen, I suspect its the same effect as a traffic jam when we all slow up to look at the car smash. You know you shouldn't, you don't really want to, but hell - you just have to!!
That is so true..... :laugh:
If you read through this thread you'll find that I've said, at varying intervals "No. Don't want to get involved" or "I'm bored with this subject now" and "I've said all I have to say", yet I'm still in here, still posting, still rubber-necking.....
maxine 10-08-2005, 12:26 PM Can I make a little comment on what I take this thread to be about? It follows on from Groucho's 'it's only a messageboard'. And it's to say that in my view, even if you spend a lot of time here, and have come to think of fellow posters more as a community of friends rathere than just 'posters', nevertheless it can lead to problems if you find yourself getting too seriously involved with people. The reason I say this is that there are still residual 'undercurrents' (Tonee!) and associated ill-feelings lurking on the board, going way way back, with certain grudges not being let go of, and if you get drawn into it, you are likely to become tainted with it yourself. You might not realise it at first, but it's simply a case of be a bit careful what you are getting involved in, try not to be drawn into taking sides, because if you do you might end up regretting it later.
I think that's good advice SF.
You can only really 'take sides' (should you wish to) if you know all the facts. We don't. Or at least, those who don't need to know don't.
Dolores 10-08-2005, 12:29 PM I think that's good advice SF.
You can only really 'take sides' (should you wish to) if you know all the facts. We don't. Or at least, those who don't need to know don't.
sorry to drag this on. But I suspect that Dab has been "economical" with the facts and told lots of different people lots of different pieces of a story ... all with the same end ....to make himself look like the victim and to make ****** look like a monster.
He needs to get a grip and I hope that when or if he returns that he has found that grip and puts things into proportion.
karenh 10-08-2005, 12:33 PM I think that's good advice SF.
You can only really 'take sides' (should you wish to) if you know all the facts. We don't. Or at least, those who don't need to know don't.
That is true.
But....its worth bearing in mind that of course, no-one knows all the facts in these things. At best, they may know all of one side, which is only half the facts, if you get what I mean.
Critique 10-08-2005, 03:25 PM I am "rubber-necking" again because this thread is still alive and all I can say is I wish someone who was "in the know" would tell us all (in an unbiased and non judgmental way) WTF it's all about so that we can at least form our own opinions and then move on!!
I doubt that's going to happen though so I suppose we should let it go and move on anyway.
karenh 10-08-2005, 03:47 PM I am "rubber-necking" again because this thread is still alive and all I can say is I wish someone who was "in the know" would tell us all (in an unbiased and non judgmental way) WTF it's all about so that we can at least form our own opinions and then move on!!
I doubt that's going to happen though so I suppose we should let it go and move on anyway.
Funnily enough Critique, I agree with you in way. Because much as I dislike the apparent "flaming" nature of this thread, now that it has been started I can't help thinking that Dab has been rather left in the lurch with it.....
But actually, "unbiased" and "unjudgemental" might be a bit of a stretch for those in the know. Cos chances are, they will only have heard Dabs side of the tale, which is not likely to be unbiased.
Marmoset 10-08-2005, 06:48 PM Oh fer crikey's sake Dab, fess up! :)
M
Groucho 10-08-2005, 10:29 PM I have thought about this thread long and hard.
I have considered the resonances with previous fall outs on this message board.
And yet still, as much as I aint really that bothered, one line keeps haunting me:
2. The people who need to know everything - know everything.
If this is really the case dab, why dont you just go away and form a little group on MSN.
I for one feel that you dont really add anything to my message board experience except a minor irritation and a small pick up in my PM activity!
Frankly, I aint so needy that I require either!
:bye:
I do hope so. :bye:
floopy 11-08-2005, 08:03 AM Another one not in the know then :wink_kiss
Dolores 11-08-2005, 08:04 AM can this be the last word in this thread please.
THIS :smartie: :w00t:
..croquet?
http://www.dva.gov.au/media/publicat/2002/oldersmarter/images/croquet2.jpg
Dolores 11-08-2005, 08:13 AM THIS!
..croquet?
http://www.dva.gov.au/media/publicat/2002/oldersmarter/images/croquet2.jpg
Only if you have checked the lawn for creatures!! :wink2:
Dol...don't you mean....
HISS!
.
Patsy 11-08-2005, 02:06 PM KISS!
:wink_kiss
Patsy 11-08-2005, 02:26 PM Can I make a little comment on what I take this thread to be about? It follows on from Groucho's 'it's only a messageboard'. And it's to say that in my view, even if you spend a lot of time here, and have come to think of fellow posters more as a community of friends rather than just 'posters', nevertheless it can lead to problems if you find yourself getting too seriously involved with people. The reason I say this is that there are still residual 'undercurrents' (Tonee!) and associated ill-feelings lurking on the board, going way way back, with certain grudges not being let go of, and if you get drawn into it, you are likely to become tainted with it yourself. You might not realise it at first, but it's simply a case of be a bit careful what you are getting involved in, try not to be drawn into taking sides, because if you do you might end up regretting it later.
I'd rep you if I could for this, Swervely. Very eloquently put.
Coastie 13-08-2005, 09:02 AM Aww I love you guys!:wub:
And I'm even warming to Cats' Goats.... :w00t:
Dolores 26-08-2005, 07:19 PM Just ressurrecting this, cos ... well it's a slow Friday night!
So I notice that Dab has gorn and had his account deleted. Has this affected anyone unduly? and why do you think he did it? and do you think he has gone to spread his joy else where on the net? anyone heard from him?
No I havn't Dol, but I do wish him well really. He mean't no harm.
Dolores 26-08-2005, 07:25 PM No I havn't Dol, but I do wish him well really. He mean't no harm.
I'd like to believe that Cat, but not half as much as he'd like us all to beleive it ... but it aint' so I tells ya! he meant harm and I just think it's interesting that he's gone without so much as a blip on the forum. But maybe I'm just a cow!
I'd like to believe that Cat, but not half as much as he'd like us all to beleive it ... but it aint' so I tells ya! he meant harm and I just think it's interesting that he's gone without so much as a blip on the forum. But maybe I'm just a cow!
His biggest problem was that he took it all too seriously and had too much time to think about things. There have been worse, infact before he went all serious I really enjoyed his posts.
Critique 26-08-2005, 09:07 PM So now he's gone, is anyone going to give us a little hint as to what he was going on about? Don't need names, just what it was that upset him so much. I didn't think he had that amount of venom in him. Always seemed like "mild mannered Clark Kent" lol. Could I have been so wrong?
Patsy 26-08-2005, 09:16 PM I agree with Cat. I don't think he meant harm, but I think he probably read into things more than he should have due to the amount of time he spent on here. Things spiralled at a bad time in his home life. Or maybe he had a bad home life because of the time he spent in this place. Catch 22, as you might say. Anyway, I hope he's happier wherever he is and, no, I haven't heard from him.
floopy 26-08-2005, 09:39 PM I think that's a bit of a cheap shot tbh, Dol, dragging it up again when he's obviously decided to leave the forum after a tough time. Discussing him when he can't defend himself is a bit off IMO.
I don't know the ins and outs of whatever happened, but he was obviously very upset, and like Pats, I wish him well.
Let it lie, say I.
Pandora 26-08-2005, 10:42 PM I think that's a bit of a cheap shot tbh, Dol, dragging it up again when he's obviously decided to leave the forum after a tough time. Discussing him when he can't defend himself is a bit off IMO.
I don't know the ins and outs of whatever happened, but he was obviously very upset, and like Pats, I wish him well.
Let it lie, say I.
What a good idea Floopy, let us indeed, let it lie. In fact, thats why Ill close this thread now.
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