Well, they finally done it and dumped Kate Moss for her "alleged" drug-taking! Personally I think they have done the right thing, they won't have made the decision purely on last weeks events. I am sure that there is an obvious history to this.

Pete Docherty is alleged to have said that he is going to kill the person who sold the video of Kate taking the drugs. God, what is it with drug addicts, they seem to think that world owes them a favour, what she...in fact what they were all doing was illegal, even the person who handed in the video no doubt, and guess what his payment will be spent on!?

The thing is the media go on about her creating an image BUT it is THEM who bloomin' blew the story, them who have glamourised it and them who have told the world and his wife that Kate Moss is an "alleged" drug -addict.

If I was Kate I would be more worried about my daughter than my career at this very moment, she was given custody of her and this sort of thing could ruin it for her. What on earth is she thinking of shacking up an eejit like Docherty anyway!?

I know that she is not the only model who has a drug habit, wasn't Naomi Campbell filmed coming out of a drugs rehabilitation or something?

Do you think H & M were right to sack her and I wonder if Revlon will do the same...................

I am only surprised that it took this long for it to come out with photographic evidence, it was only a few years ago that Sadie Frosts (I think it was her) daughter was rushed into hospital, after attending a birthday party for a CHILD held in a trendy London nightclub, where she picked up an Ecstacy tablet and swallowed it thinking it was a sweet!

As most of you know, I have "dabbled" with drugs in the past, I wasnt a role model in the public eye and I didnt have children, I certainly would never have looked after my neices whilst under the influence of any drug, and when I have taken one of them away on holiday I didnt even get drunk, I couldnt, I had to be on the ball in case she needed me!

I think that H&M were right in sacking her - put **** in your body, **** happens and this is only the start if she stays with that gouged out junkie. If Jefferson Hack has anything about him he will keep his precious little girl as far away from her and Pete Docherty as possible - it may be cool for Kate at the moment to have her junkie scumbag lover, but it gets nasty eventually and she should be doing ALL in her power to protect her baby from it!!

I have never really liked Kate Moss, she is far too up her own ass imo! So serves the silly cow right :devil:

I think they were right to sack her. I'd be sacked from my job too if it was discovered that I was doing heroin or crack-cocaine and I'm not in the public eye and I'm not a role model for anyone. But I'd be sacked mainly because its illegal, but also partly because it would be bad for the image of the company if it was known that they tolerated drug use among their staff.

With Kate Moss though, the image is everything. She's a model. Companies hire her to promote their stuff not just for her beauty, but for what her perceived "image" says about their products.

Two weeks ago, Kate Moss's image was "cool", "rock chick", "wild child" - which is great for the likes of H&M. Most young girls aspire to that image, so they want to associate it with their clothes. But, there is nothing cool about "junkie", "crack-head", and since the recent expose, that is her image now.

Not surprisingly H&M don't want anything to do with it. Its just not good business.

On one of the sunday morning tv discussions, Jane Moore was saying that the newspapers had had these stories about KM for years but untill now it hadn't been the right time to release them - her reputation being so strong before. She's got a lot to thank Pete for hasn't she.

the newspapers had had these stories about KM for years but untill now it hadn't been the right time to release them - her reputation being so strong before.

...or in other words, it wasn't worth using as it wouldn't raise enough interest to impact on sales. :glare:

So much for the dedication of the media in bringing us 'news'

I actually like Kate Moss - and i like the her 'dont care' attitude. She smokes like a trouper, drinks to get drunk and parties like a wild thing. BUT i dont agree with drug taking, so i think its right that she gets dropped from her modelling contracts.

As KarenH said, if she (or i) were caught taking drugs at work, we would be marched out the door quicker than you can say Cocaine.

I think her drug taking started well before she hooked up with Pete, but im sure he has upped her usage. I read in one magazine that she never took drugs in front of her daughter, but Pete does - well why didnt she stop him ??????

I actually like Kate Moss - and i like the her 'dont care' attitude. She smokes like a trouper, drinks to get drunk and parties like a wild thing.

But are these qualities to admire, especially in a young mother?


kate Moss and coke - just the tip of the iceberg isn't it. I think it's pretty well kbnown that drug taking is rife among fashion models, it's part of the lifestlye (and it keeps them thin). It's even an image to aspire to - 'Heroin Chic'. Good grief.

Gawd..i thought she had been on drugs for years.
I never thought she looked healthy.She wears the worst clothes..which magazines somehow admire.She has the skrawniest skinniest legs....
she really does NOT look healthy, not even when she's all dolled up in her shoots.And her hair is always so straggly!
I just don't think she ever looks groomed enough to be a model.
I did'nt know she had a child.
How old is the child?

I am not sure Aondeag, she must be at least 3 as I think she pregnant around the same time as me but further on.

It is the same in normal circumstances, I mean let's face it Pete Docherty couldn't care less about Kate Moss's kid, she is not his. He is a junkie and all he cares about his where his next fix is coming from. I had never heard of him until he started dating Kate Moss, so he must be loving all the attention even it the majority of it is bad.

Isis....that Sadie Frost incident was a strange one - why on earth would you have a child's party in a night-club?

Kate Moss is just a scapecoat, as SF has stated the modelling world is rife with drugs, booze and god knows what else. When children become involved you really should look at things differently. I had a friend who I knew was a regular drug-user and I accepted that, it was her body, her money but when she got pregnant and after she had her child, she still used in fact she probably increased her useage, I felt it was time to cut ties. She got in with some really dodgy characters and I just did not want to be associated with them. Her child'll be about 12 or 13 now and I often wonder if he is ok and how he turned out but no doubt he will have had his first puff of the wacky-backy if his mother is anything to go by.

Gawd..i thought she had been on drugs for years.
I never thought she looked healthy.She wears the worst clothes..which magazines somehow admire.She has the skrawniest skinniest legs....


I agree Aondeag.

Actually, I've seen her a few times in real life, albeit a few years back now. She comes from an area not far from where I was brought up, and my brother used to be quite good mates with her brother.

She's never been a stunner imo. Even years back, before her drug use was really bad (i.e. when she was in her early 20's), she always looked at best plain. And very scrawny.

But despite that she did have something about her which made heads turn. An aura or something. I guess its that hard-to-define quality which makes her a successful model.

Im sure that if I were pictured in my local newspaper, snorting line after line of cocaine, and had a two year old child - Social Services would be banging my door down faster than you could say knife.

Apparently the police are involved now - which is quite right - after all they nick you for having a couple of ounces of dope on you, so why not some scrawny ol slapper who just happens to be famous?

Elle Macpherson has said today "she is a victim of being in the public eye" - actually no Elle, she is a victim of her own arrogance and foolishness - thinking she could break the law openly and act like an unfit mother.

Some icon eh?

Elle Macpherson has said today "she is a victim of being in the public eye" - actually no Elle, she is a victim of her own arrogance and foolishness - thinking she could break the law openly and act like an unfit mother.

Some icon eh?

I saw that too on GMTV, Pan and was a bit gobsmacked! I appreciate she didn't want to diss Kate Moss on national TV but to turn round and blame the fact that she is in the public eye. I know she was only 14 when she plucked out of obscurity but depsite drug-taking being rife in the industry there are probably loads of models who haven't taken it! Jordan for example, she maybe a lot of things but she hasn't touched drugs!

I saw that too on GMTV, Pan and was a bit gobsmacked! I appreciate she didn't want to diss Kate Moss on national TV but to turn round and blame the fact that she is in the public eye. I know she was only 14 when she plucked out of obscurity but depsite drug-taking being rife in the industry there are probably loads of models who haven't taken it! Jordan for example, she maybe a lot of things but she hasn't touched drugs!

Quite right Bella.

Trouble with some celebs, they think that because they are famous, that the laws that apply to you and I, dont apply to them. WRONG.

Trouble with people like Elle MacP is that she (and others like her) refuse to accept the fact that despite "being in the public eye", Kate Moss has still broken the law, let down the people she has contracts with, her family and her daughter......... they simply refuse to admit it because they think they are so special, they dont have to.

In my experience, people who use cocaine or other class a drugs have this air of unbelievable confidence about them - they truly believe that they are above the law and untouchable!

My brother in law was a smack and crack head, and he was so blase and arrogant about it and scornful of the law, it was like he was the king of the world.......only it wasnt the law that got him, it was the drugs that killed him.

I also have other friends (although I have nothing to do with them anymore - I saw the light 4 years ago and removed myself from their circle) that are coke addicts, who are really quite vile people, who can only go for a night out knowing they have got a couple of grams of coke to hand, its almost a safety blanket, they dont have the self esteem and confidence to have a night out without it, and then when they are kaned, they are nasty and violent to their closest friends because of the paranoia and drug induced psychosis - its HORRIBLE!!!

I heard on the news that the Police are investigating Kate Moss.....

In my experience, people who use cocaine or other class a drugs have this air of unbelievable confidence about them - they truly believe that they are above the law and untouchable!

My brother in law was a smack and crack head, and he was so blase and arrogant about it and scornful of the law, it was like he was the king of the world.......only it wasnt the law that got him, it was the drugs that killed him.

I also have other friends (although I have nothing to do with them anymore - I saw the light 4 years ago and removed myself from their circle) that are coke addicts, who are really quite vile people, who can only go for a night out knowing they have got a couple of grams of coke to hand, its almost a safety blanket, they dont have the self esteem and confidence to have a night out without it, and then when they are kaned, they are nasty and violent to their closest friends because of the paranoia and drug induced psychosis - its HORRIBLE!!!

I heard on the news that the Police are investigating Kate Moss.....

Not only is she being investigated by the Police, Isis, but its just been on the radio that Chanel have announced that when her contract runs out, "they have no intention of using her again".

Looks like that shot or 20 up the nose has caused her to shoot herself in the foot instead.

I realise she wont exactly be hard up, but hopefully losing Chanel and H&M contracts will give her a boot up her bony, arrogant backside.

Sadly I doubt it. Like Isis I have run across some heavy coke users, and from my experience she will see herself as the victim in all of this.

It will be the media's fault for making a fuss, the companies' fault for being narrow minded and easily swayed. Then it will be her family and friends' fault for not understanding, or for pushing her into a modelling career, and so on. It'll never be her fault.

She'll probably end up like Paula Yates.

Sadly I doubt it. Like Isis I have run across some heavy coke users, and from my experience she will see herself as the victim in all of this.

It will be the media's fault for making a fuss, the companies' fault for being narrow minded and easily swayed. Then it will be her family and friends' fault for not understanding, or for pushing her into a modelling career, and so on. It'll never be her fault.

She'll probably end up like Paula Yates.

I hope not, Fee. Despite my dislike for drugs, I would really like to see Kate take this as a wake-up call and hopefully if she does and come through this she will get maybe be able to get through to others that it can be done. I doubt this will happen - she will check into some rehab place, stay there for a couple of months, come out all reformed begging for forgiveness, she'll get a contract and then there will be fresh photos of her using again.....same old, same old, it's been done before.

Btw - did anyone see the programme "Tenants From H$ll" where Kate Moss and her friends rented out someone's house and basically trashed it and then denied it was her! She never paid one penny to the guy! If she can't even admit to doing that, then I doubt very much she will admit to having a drug problem!

I think they were right to sack her. I'd be sacked from my job too if it was discovered that I was doing heroin or crack-cocaine and I'm not in the public eye and I'm not a role model for anyone.


Actually Karen, I think you'd probably find that your employer was obligated to put you through some kind of re-hab these days.

Then fire you upon your return for some minor misdemeanor. :ninja:

Actually they're not. Drug/alcohol abuse has to be viewed as an illness IF the employee owns up to it. If they don't, or don't agree to co-operate, or fall off the wagon, you can sack 'em.

In fact it's harder to sack someone for a minor misdemeanour.

According to a headline for The Standard, Chanel have dropped Miss Moss too......

Whether or not the knowledge has been rife for years, its the hard images that have killed her lifestyle. I dont care whether people take drugs or not but in my experience, coke is the ugly drug. People are just ****e after taking it (whatever way). As a mother, she was always playing with fire being in the public eye and publicly taking drugs. So, rehab maybe, lost custody maybe, lost contracts yes and no - for not being responsible.

I don't blame them all for dropping her, I hope she's arrested too. Had the whole world at her feet, makes millions and then throws it all away by being so stupid. My opinions of her just cannot be printed! :angry:

I don't blame them all for dropping her, I hope she's arrested too. Had the whole world at her feet, makes millions and then throws it all away by being so stupid. My opinions of her just cannot be printed! :angry:

I dont wish her harm but her status as a fit and responsible parent is definitely tarnished for me. It makes me respect, so much more, all the parent who sacrifice and want the very best for their children.

I don't blame them all for dropping her, I hope she's arrested too. Had the whole world at her feet, makes millions and then throws it all away by being so stupid. My opinions of her just cannot be printed! :angry:

I do hope she is arrested, after all what she was doing was illegal. She should be made to give the name of her supplier too! No doubt she will be giving it "do you know who I am" when the police turn up. And Pete Docherty will get his big fat mouth in there and give his 50p worth. He was shown on our local news today as his band are playing at Greenock (wow!! really classy joint), and it will be his first gig, herion free (another wow), pity he is not cocaine free eh!? How old is he? He looks about 40, and looks bloomin' awful, his skin is so shallow, a bit like death warmed up over a very low gas heat!

I do hope she is arrested, after all what she was doing was illegal. She should be made to give the name of her supplier too! No doubt she will be giving it "do you know who I am" when the police turn up. And Pete Docherty will get his big fat mouth in there and give his 50p worth. He was shown on our local news today as his band are playing at Greenock (wow!! really classy joint), and it will be his first gig, herion free (another wow), pity he is not cocaine free eh!? How old is he? He looks about 40, and looks bloomin' awful, his skin is so shallow, a bit like death warmed up over a very low gas heat!

Greenock is ok - dont be a snob. I dangle Moulin Rouge (you can hit me when you see me!)

Greenock is ok - dont be a snob. I dangle Moulin Rouge (you can hit me when you see me!)

Have you seen it recently!?? I am a snob though, I live in Edinburgh remember! We are all snobs here! :closedeye

Have you seen it recently!?? I am a snob though, I live in Edinburgh remember! We are all snobs here! :closedeye

Im from Glasgow - you are the enemy not snobs!!

Posted on another forum - and tells it just like it is for me................................................ ..............................


"Every gram of cocaine that this bitch and her ilk snort equates to busloads of innocent people being machine-gunned in places like Columbia, Honduras and Guatemala as the drug barons make their protests against the feeble attempts of these countries militias to halt this evil trade, which amounts to $79 billion per annum in Cental America alone.
Nearer to home it equates to the premature deaths and hopeless lives of the inner city addicts, the pensioners mugged for their next fix, the houses burgled, the cars broken into - and you get the likes of that Janet Street-Porter and Twiggy jumping to her defence.
They should do a tour of Central America and let the authorities show them some photos of the "enforcement" policies of these drug cartels, or better still show them the results of an actual "enforcement" they are regular enough. They should visit our hospitals and see a mugged pensioner or two. They should be taken to see the state of a few young addicts on the verge of death.
Then we had (on local TV) the pot smoker who claimed he was a safe driver, because pot made him relaxed, unlike alcohol which makes people aggressive. This ignorant, arrogant, idiot, actually had the gall to come on TV and state this!!
Of course, the fact that it's reaction time, that can make the difference between an accident or not, never entered his feeble brain. Cannabis is safe, that's why it's been downgraded. Oh yes? Medical evidence screams the opposite. Violent mood swings, schizophrenia, etc, etc. These people all want locking up, in a place where drugs cannot get to them, under any circumstances."

How old is he? He looks about 40, and looks bloomin' awful, his skin is so shallow, a bit like death warmed up over a very low gas heat!

Bella, putting all his many faults to one side and being totally shallow - I saw him in Gatwick airport a few weeks ago, and WOW!

I was amazed because I don't like him, but even in the wasted state he was in, the guy just oozes sex appeal and is much better looking in real life. You know how some people make you go all pathetic and simpering?

No excuses - just stating what I saw (before I tripped over a luggage trolley :blush: )

Im from Glasgow - you are the enemy not snobs!!

And you left...............nuff said! :D

Bella, putting all his many faults to one side and being totally shallow - I saw him in Gatwick airport a few weeks ago, and WOW!

I was amazed because I don't like him, but even in the wasted state he was in, the guy just oozes sex appeal and is much better looking in real life. You know how some people make you go all pathetic and simpering?

No excuses - just stating what I saw (before I tripped over a luggage trolley :blush: )

I remember you saying that Fee and you know what despite it all, I have to admit he does have something but the whole drugs thing is such a turn-off and his diabolical stage thingy with Elton John was just another nail in his coffin for me, I am afraid BUT I do know where you are coming from............Bonny will back me up here but I do find Cain Dingle incredibly sexy, don't ask me why but I wouldn't mind a roll in the hay with him! :blush: :ninja:

Oh deary deary me. Kate Moss is waking up this morning to the image of the hands of Burberry and Chanel waving her goodbye :bye:
Both have dropped her like a hot potato. THe news is that others may follow. She could be completely out of work by the weekend.

Yes I think she should be sacked and no I don't think she is responsible for all the ills and war in the world.

She's a model who took drugs and has a druggy boyfriend. OK she's an irresponsible parent and obviously her boyfriend and image is more important to her than her daughters well-being.

But I really hate the way the media take the holier than thou status with people like Kate Moss. Not only do they put it all out of proportion but they also "get people on her side" by their atrocious treatment of her.

And for the record I've never particularly been a Kate Moss fan, she's a clothes horse whatever personality she has, I've never seen. Give me Twiggy any day (ooops showing me age!!)

Och, she'll have a couple of lines of cocaine and will think she is invincible! I posted earlier about her being with Revlon, but it is in fact Rimmel. I can't see them keeping her as Rimmel appeals to young girls. What a costly night out that was for Kate - her career, reputation and custody of her daughter all in question now.

She has the world at her feet, want for nothing and she throws it all away for the sake to get high! If she couldn't handle the pressure of the modelling world, she should have just walked away but now her glossy image is so tarnished. She can turn it around though, get herself sorted out and show everyone that she can do it, she can be an inspiration to youngsters again, she could get a campaign going not to use drugs but I somehow doubt this will happen. You know I have never, ever heard Kate Moss speak!

Dol, re Twiggy - does she look fabulous or what? She does the new M & S ad and looks fantastic, Mr B has the hots for her!

I know what you mean about the media but that is them all over, you never know what way the sword is going to swing with them!

Och, she'll have a couple of lines of cocaine and will think she is invincible!




and that is the awful thing about Cocaine, NOT the awful thing about Kate Moss! We all know she's not the only one in the modelling world to use drugs, DESPITE what all these fashion diva's are saying on tv "I've never seen drugs at a model shoot" ... I just find it hard to believe!

The modelling world say: let's just blame that Doherty bloke (who's first name I can't remember!!), makes life so much easier doesn't it, cos SO many people in the fashion world make an incredible amount of money out of Kate Moss and Co being skinny enough to wear their horrible clothes!!

And yes, Twiggy is divine!

I agree with much of what Dol says here.

Yes, Kate Moss is irresponsible and stupid to take Cocaine, but........to a large extent it is a symptom of the environment she works in! Of course she has the personal choice to walk away and clean up etc. etc., but it should be born in mind that she, like most models, entered the industry at a very young and impressionable age and had her first Class A drug as a teenager. And it is so much easier not to become addicted in the first place than it is to clean up once you are addicted.

I'm not excusing her here - its terrible that such an icon, worshipped by many young girls, should fall down in this way. And I don't blame her sponsors from dropping her from their campaigns now that her drug use has become public. But, she's NOT a demon. Its all too easy for us, in our drug free ivory towers, to judge a woman who was thrust into a world of drugs at age 15 for becoming a coke addict!

As for the media - there is something of a witchunt in this expose. It strikes me that they have known about Kate Moss's drug abuse for ages but chose not to say it. Instead, they launched a series of campaigns against Pete Docherty (not a media darling) in an effort to make Kate Moss split up from him - as if they have any right to decide who she should, and should not see! And then when she refused to bow to the pressure, out come the druggie piccies of her snorting coke. This is her media punishment!

It strikes me that the media care less about the fact that she takes drugs than they do about the fact that she was arrogant enough to ignore their pressure.

No matter how early she was recruited into the modelling business, or how surrounded you are by drugs - it is your duty as a Mother to act responsibly. And she hasnt.

She has lost three good contracts and if Yahoo News are to be believed, Rimmel are saying that her contract with them is "now under review".

Serves her right. She is arrogant beyond belief if she honestly thought that she could thumb her nose at the law for much longer. Apart from anything else, what if the drugs had of killed her (which could happen if you have no idea what you snorting up your hooter), it would leave her daughter without a mother.

Looks like Kate is selfish as well as stupid.

No matter how early she was recruited into the modelling business, or how surrounded you are by drugs - it is your duty as a Mother to act responsibly. And she hasnt.

I don't disagree with that at all. No-one would!

I'm just saying that its all to easy for us to judge how other people should or shouldn't behave without actually considering the circumstances which led them to be that way in the first place.

I think they were right to sack her. I'd be sacked from my job too if it was discovered that I was doing heroin or crack-cocaine and I'm not in the public eye and I'm not a role model for anyone. .

One thing that mystifies me is the use of this term 'role model'. Why on earth should Kate Moss or anyone whose job it is strut up and down a catwalk be viewed as a role model? Much like when misbehaving footballers are criticized because they are supposedly role models. Sez who? And if they are, what a pathetic state our society must be in if that's the best we can find to look up to.

I think the beautifull Pandora made this point. How can she shove that stuff and still raise children? Tell me?

Does a trusting nanny who knows the full score and keeps her gob shut do it, does a trusting relative do it.WHO...


I have no sympathy for this girl.

She should have been locked up years ago for being so thin.

Sadly, SF, I think little girls and little boys do look up to models and footballers, so they are role models, whether they like it or not.

I can't believe she's the only model to do what she does, but she is a mother and she has been shopped. She's publicly apologised (big deal, you might say), but the one person she needs to apologise to is her child. Only she can do this and I sincerely hope she wakes up, grows up and sorts her life out before she ruins both their lives. It's not like all this fame is new to her, for God's sake.

I can't believe she's the only model to do what she does, but she is a mother and she has been shopped. She's publicly apologised (big deal, you might say), but the one person she needs to apologise to is her child.

I don't suppose she is Patsy - all the programmes I have seen that have inside goss in the model/tv/film/media industry drug taking is rife.

Eternity rightly said earlier that it is not just the taker and their family that is involved or effected to the negative with drugs. It is the people who grow it, or those who are forced out of their homes or intimidated or have no choice, those who traffic it and their families and those that sell it and their families.

Taking a line of cocaine is not just a purely hedonistic and irresponsible activity. It is a selfish, inane, illegal, evil, bad, and disgusting activity.

Kate Moss may have 30 million stashed away and she maybe an astute business woman - who the hell cares?? She is a mother foremost and is/was a fashion diva who a lot of people relied on to a] sell clothes and makeup and b] to look cool and imitate.

I don't care one jot that her lucrative employers have dropped her like a hot brick, not one jot - as karenh quite rightly pointed out most people would be sacked if they took illegal drugs, teachers, police, lawyers etc etc etc. Why should Kate be any different?

And as far as issuing a public apology in my eyes is a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted!!

I actually don't dislike her as a person, well I don't know her, so am in no position to judge - I just htink her choices have been BAD and her opportunities have been superbly GOOD. There seems IMO an inbalance there somehow??

I think the beautifull Pandora made this point. .

Never mind the Moss - your tenners in the post !!!!!!!!:w00t:

And just how shallow are H & M, Chanel, Burberry and the others - they must have known that Miss Moss had a drug problem but they continued to use her face, her image but the minute she gets dragged down to gutter level by the media they stop her contract...........well, I won't be shopping in Chanel anymore and I have gone right off Burberry!

well, I won't be shopping in Chanel anymore and I have gone right off Burberry!

Lol - im glad you could afford to in the first place you luvie you :wink_kiss

I have gone right off Burberry!

I knew you were a chav :laugh:

I knew you were a chav :laugh:

was And that would be a chavette! :w00t:

OK chavette it is - google search threw this up :w00t:

oryte am a chavette n am well proud i luv strtin fites i dont giv a **** wot anyone tinks ov me!! init ya dont av to nd i dont wear all the fake **** i iz got allthe gud stuff

OK chavette it is - google search threw this up :w00t:

oryte am a chavette n am well proud i luv strtin fites i dont giv a **** wot anyone tinks ov me!! init ya dont av to nd i dont wear all the fake **** i iz got allthe gud stuff

LOL, Fee!! :laugh: Oh dear, maybe Kate Moss has had a lucky escape! :unsure: