I've done a thread like this before but it went down like a lead balloon. But I'm trying it again since I love paranormal stuff.

Each day I shall post up a new ghost picture and a brief description of it and we can discuss it etc. (feel free to add your own)

Ok here goes:

The Brown Lady

This is the most famous ghost picture which was taken in Sept 1936.
The ghost is thought to be that of Lady Dorothy Townshend, wife of Charles Townshend, 2nd Viscount of Raynham, residents of Raynham Hall in Norfolk, England in the early 1700s. (Yes, this has been googled)
It is thought that Charles discovered his wife was having an affair and locked her in a remote corner of the house until she died.
She is said to haunt the oak stair case (seen in the picture) and other parts of Raynham Hall and has been seen on many occasions since.
The photographer of this photo claimed to have seen an "ethereal veiled form coming slowly down the stairs" prompting him to take the picture.

http://paranormal.about.com/library/graphics/brown_lady_lg.jpg

So, what do we think of this striking picture?

Call me cynical but it could just be condensation on the camera lens or a bounced reflection :)

Call me cynical but it could just be condensation on the camera lens or a bounced reflection :)
Excellent crit, that's the sort of stuff we want - a good old debate!
I myself don't know what to think about this picture. I'm always a bit weary of pictures with these "glowing objects".

Anyone else?

I do believe that ghosts exist but think this could be as Crit has described.....or someone has sneezed on the lens. :sick:

Is there any proof that Ghosts can be photographed now there's a thought?!:wacko:

When we were in Wales we went to the Danyr Ogof (sp) Caves. I took some pics which all came out OK but this one - which was taken in a part of the cave that is licensed for marriages - came out like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/liberated60s/wales4sm.jpg

When I saw it my only reaction was that it was condensation because it was damp in there, of course. It definitely wasn't cigarette smoke because smoking wasn't allowed.

D'ya think I captured a ghostly aparition? :)

Nah...it was the person in front...they pooted as you took the shot! :sick:

Was it cold Crit? I took a similar picture once and wondered what it was until my husband pointed out it was probably my breath as it was freezing. :D

I think this is pretty amazing:

This photograph commonly seen on the web was taken after an auto accident. The passengers in the car survived, which lead some to believe an angel assisted them.
http://www.jesusreligion.com/angels_exist.jpg

There wasn't anyone in front Coastie so that blows off your theory ;)

And it wasn't cold enough to make my breath cloudy Tiggs. I just think it was the damp in there got into the camera :wacko:

That's pretty spooky Coastie :wacko:

Excellent additions! (This thread is already doing better now than my last one on this subject did...)

Coastie I've seen that photo before. I dunno, I think it looks fake.

With technology as it is these days it would be fairly easy to produce a fake ghostly/angelic figure tis true however what makes this more interesting than other 'angel' sightings is that it was taken at the scene of an obviously horrific crash and no-one died......

I've read similar stories where people have had brushes with death only to be assisted by a complete stranger and when the authorities have arrived to assist the stranger has vanished as if into thin air.

There is a classic story from the war where a driver took his truck through a minefield. When he got to the other side to a group of allies they asked him how he just accumplished what he did.....he replied he had followed the young private who had walked before him.....they said there had been no-one ahead of him and that they had seen no-one out in the mine field at all.

Another war story reported was that the German army saw an army of angels above the allied trenches as they went forward to attack. The Germans lost drastically that day.

I think I believe in ghosts, but don't think I can fully until I've experienced something myself. I have heard lots of credible tales from people first hand, but still have some doubt. I heard that spirits often visit skeptics because they are more likely to be believed. Is that so? In which case, that would explain why all the Most Haunted Lives I've seen have been flops.

I've had a spooky experience in the other building at work. Basically I was on my break one night and I heard the sound of running foot steps along the corridor, down the stairs and then door slamming.

I queried it with the other guy who was on his break in the other room and he said he had heard nothing and hadn't left the room at all.

I shared what had happened with the rest of my watch and they said that the building was haunted by two nurses who heard the air raid alarm go off in the war, ran to go outside and as they got out the door they were killed by a bomb. :shocking:

I have also heard whispering in the same building as if someone has left a radio on in the room and so in light of this coupled with my imagination I do not use that building anymore.

A woman who did work here was a spiritulist and sad that she had spoken with a boy and a teenage girl ghost in the building who were not happy about us using the place....whatever! :glare:

Coastie, are you saying that teenage ghosts don't have a right to be heard, whereas adult ones do? Or are you saying you just don't believe the spiritualist? :huh:

Coastie, are you saying that teenage ghosts don't have a right to be heard, whereas adult ones do? Or are you saying you just don't believe the spiritualist? :huh:

I do believe there are spiritulists (not that I would ever want to visit one or whatever) but this particular one was well...lets just say a lady of tall tales so no-one ever beleived her...sorry should have made that clearer. :blush:

Thank you. I believe in spiritualists per se, but haven't been to one that I believe in totally. I don't really have the need to, thank goodness, and when I did it was just for a laugh really.

I do like the John Edward and similar programmes on telly and can't believe it's all fixed, but again unless I have first hand experience, I remain slightly skeptical. Not cynical, though.

I avoid them like the plague.....mainly because I have such a hyper active imagination I would probably poop myself before the start of it all and even then I would not like to welcome a spirit into my life that could haunt me for the rest of it! :shocking:

I have seen pj's picture before and I really want to beleive it - but I am just not sure.

I have thought of a viable reason for Crits pic however, it could have been a particle of dust or fluff floating past the camera and the flash has just highlghted its existence??

The car crash one is new to me - but it looks real enough to me!!!:shocking:

And I have seen a ghost so am more than happy to beleive in them.

Spill lady!!!! :ohmy:

With technology as it is these days it would be fairly easy to produce a fake ghostly/angelic figure tis true however what makes this more interesting than other 'angel' sightings is that it was taken at the scene of an obviously horrific crash and no-one died......
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Thats the trouble isnt it? Its so easy to fake anything these days on PCs that you cant believe what you are seeing.

Crit, your photograph could have been taken too near a light source maybe and some got into the lens, but to be honest it really DOES look strange. There are some orbs floating around in there too, and Im sure Ive read somewhere that lots of paranormal photos contain orbs. Ill go and see if I can find anything about this and get back to you.

As far as "Most Haunted" is concerned, sorry but I dont believe for one milli-second that Derek Acorah gets possessed.

I mean, can you imagine if any of you met me and I suddenly started going all peculiar and claiming I was possessed by a spirit? You'd tell me to pull meself together ! :laugh:

Edited to say : - Crit, check out this website - it has ghostly orbs on it, just like the one in the right of your photograph ! http://www.psychicinvestigators.net/html/spirit_orbs.html

Will anyone here be going to watch 'The Exocism of Emily Rose' released in cinemas soon staring Tom Wilkinson as the priest?

Apparently it's based on a true story of a girl who became 'possessed' by the devil. Tom Wilkonsons character was requested to perform an exorcism after permission was granted by the Catholic church. The girl died during the exorcism and the priest was taken to trial...I think for murder but I'm not 100% sure...anyway he taped the exorcism itself and they play the tape during the film as they tell the story.

I am of a 'to freaked out easily by such things' disposition so I shall be giving this a miss!

OK here's another to ponder over:

Freddy Jackson

This intriguing photo, taken in 1919, was first published in 1975 by Sir Victor Goddard, a retired R.A.F. officer. The photo is a group portrait of Goddard's squadron, which had served in World War I aboard the HMS Daedalus.
An extra ghostly face appears in the photo. In back of the airman positioned on the top row, fourth from the left, can clearly be seen the face of another man. It is said to be the face of Freddy Jackson, an air mechanic who had been accidentally killed by an airplane propeller two days earlier. His funeral had taken place on the day this photograph was snapped. Members of the squadron easily recognized the face as Jackson's. It has been suggested that Jackson, unaware of his death, decided to show up for the group photo.

http://paranormal.about.com/library/graphics/freddy_jackson_lg.jpg

I think this is one of the best "ghost photos" I have seen. Very creepy indeed.

But peej - I so want to beleive this - but looking at the evidence, if Freddie wasn't really there - why would the guys either side leave such a large gap for him to squeeze into??

I am trying really hard not to be cynical here - but I cannot see the merit in this one.

And Pats, I told this story ages ago - I was about 7 or 8, t'was Xmas Day or Boxing Day, and me and my sis were playing with green balloons on the top landing of our house. I glanced down to the bottom landing and saw a lady standing with her back to us, she had on a navy blue skirt, with a bussel and a dark jacket and a bonnet, I didn't see her face, the odd thing was that she was only visible from her knees up.

The bottom landing was 2 steps high, and it was as though she was standing on the floor, but the steps were in the way.

I looked round at my sister to see if she had seen her too, and when I looked back she had gone. I didn't feel scared and I didn't even think twice about it, I am not even sure whether I mentioned it - it was just one of those things!!! But the memory is as clear as if it was yesterday.

Flip, look closely at the little picture which is inset and look behind the obvious face - you can see another just faintly peeping out from behind.

I didn't notice it at first and thought the same as you - why the big gap - but then I noticed the shadowy one behind :)

Just looked at that website about Orbs Pan, interesting, but I'm not convinced that they're not just odd light reflections or specs of dust :)

Ooooh I'm spooked now cos I went back to the original of that pic and viewed it full size. There are lots of those "orbs" on it Pan and they do look remarkably like the ones on that website :wacko:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/liberated60s/orb1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/liberated60s/orb2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/liberated60s/orb3.jpg

How strange!

Flip, look closely at the little picture which is inset and look behind the obvious face - you can see another just faintly peeping out from behind.

I didn't notice it at first and thought the same as you - why the big gap - but then I noticed the shadowy one behind :)

:)

:shocking: OMG - your right!! Spooky!!!:shocking:

I think this is pretty amazing:

This photograph commonly seen on the web was taken after an auto accident. The passengers in the car survived, which lead some to believe an angel assisted them.
http://www.jesusreligion.com/angels_exist.jpg

Easily done on a computer... But I do believe in this stuff so NO, IT WAS NOT DONE ON A COMPUTER

^^ or it could just be flare from a light source!

Ooooh I'm spooked now cos I went back to the original of that pic and viewed it full size. There are lots of those "orbs" on it Pan and they do look remarkably like the ones on that website :wacko:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/liberated60s/orb1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/liberated60s/orb2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/liberated60s/orb3.jpg

How strange!

Weird arent they? They look like cells seen under a microscope to me. Very weird though.

PJ's pic of the group of men on the ship is majorly spooky ! :shocking:

:shocking: OMG - your right!! Spooky!!!:shocking:

Yes but the guy in the circle has on a different hat to the guy fiorth from the left where the spook is supposed to have appeared.....I have been studying this pic hard to find the guy in the circle in the big print but none of the hats seems to match in context! :mellow: ALso the background is ever so slightly different...I would say it was someone peering out from a window behind a totally different photograph!

Yes but the guy in the circle has on a different hat to the guy fiorth from the left where the spook is supposed to have appeared.....I have been studying this pic hard to find the guy in the circle in the big print but none of the hats seems to match in context! :mellow: ALso the background is ever so slightly different...I would say it was someone peering out from a window behind a totally different photograph!

I thought that as well, Coastie. It isn't so much the hat but he is even holding his head in a different way.

It could also be a double exposure! :ninja:

Or it could be the reflection of the guy taking the photo...if he was using one of them old cameras where you squeeze a plunger once the picture is set up...as it were!

Yes but the guy in the circle has on a different hat to the guy fiorth from the left where the spook is supposed to have appeared.....I have been studying this pic hard to find the guy in the circle in the big print but none of the hats seems to match in context! :mellow: ALso the background is ever so slightly different...I would say it was someone peering out from a window behind a totally different photograph!
The picture in the circle is of the guy who is standing in the back row 4th from the left. It's just zoomed in on his face, showing an extra ghostly face behind him.
If you look closely enough you can even make out the ghostly face on the zoomed out picture.
I have circled them:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b16/pjwilson83/ghost.jpg

It's definately not two different photographs. The circle is clearly a zoomed in picture of the guy 4th from the left.

Got it...thanks Peej.....I take it they are standing in front of a set of hanger doors...hmm that is a bit spooky!

That one is spooky PJ, I like that.

As for the orbs, I've taken pictures with my digital camera before and they have had them on there. It just meant my lens needed a clean.

Here's one I found that has some orbs on...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/andreab33/orbs.jpg

Either orbs or my mums walls need cleaning:laugh: :laugh:

Snot on the lens Andrea! :mellow: or....the developing fluid wasn't rinsed off propery before the finish was applied (as it were) :wink2:

I was looking at the ghost picture of the guy infront of the dead guy and for a split second I thought I saw a girl flash behind the guy with the dead guy behind him, but on the other side! She was in one of those dresses, the old ones. Freeeeaaaky!!!

The picture in the circle is of the guy who is standing in the back row 4th from the left. It's just zoomed in on his face, showing an extra ghostly face behind him.
If you look closely enough you can even make out the ghostly face on the zoomed out picture.
I have circled them:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b16/pjwilson83/ghost.jpg

It's definately not two different photographs. The circle is clearly a zoomed in picture of the guy 4th from the left.

Oooh, I get it now - I got my left & right mixed up and was orginally looking at the guy 4th from the right! Doh!!:wallbash:

I see it now, thank PJ and now I don't know what to think!

Is there more than one extra ghostly face in that picture?
(serious question...)
because I'm sure I can see things....on other mens shoulders.

I don't think so Aeondag, everyone else in the photo was emant to be there. That ghostly face who is peeking around the guy in front was the only person there who wasn't accounted for, apparently.

Ok here's another:

The Ghost in the Burning Building

On November 19, 1995, Wem Town Hall in Shropshire, England burned to the ground. Many spectators gathered to watch the old building, built in 1905, as it was being consumed by the flames. Tony O'Rahilly, a local resident, was one of those onlookers and took photos of the spectacle with a 200mm telephoto lens from across the street. One of those photos shows what looks like a small, partially transparent girl standing in the doorway. Nether O'Rahilly nor any of the other onlookers or firefighters recalled seeing the girl there.

O'Rahilly submitted the photo to the Association for the Scientific Study of Anomalous Phenomena which, in turn, presented it for analysis to Dr. Vernon Harrison, a photographic expert and former president of the Royal Photographic Society. Harrison carefully examined both the print and the original negative, and concluded that it was genuine. "The negative is a straightforward piece of black-and-white work and shows no sign of having been tampered with," Harrison said.

But who is the little girl? Wem, a quiet market town in northern Shropshire, had been ravaged by fire in the past. In 1677, historical records note, a fire destroyed many of the town's old timber houses. A young girl named Jane Churm, the legends say, accidentally set fire to a thatched roof with a candle. Many believed her ghost haunted the area and had been seen on a few other occasions.

http://paranormal.about.com/library/graphics/fire_girl_lg.jpg

I think this one is also very creepy.

ah...i thought it mite have been shadows and the quality of the photo'or something...
it's a great photo....and a sad story.
(I believe in spirits)I'd say it would have been really interesting to chat to one of the other people in the picture....................

I have seen this picture before. It is very creepy indeed! The poor girl, she looks so sad:closedeye

One of the problems is that we have this word, ghost, in our language which leads people to think that as we have the word, then the thing must exist. But we have lots of words where the thing isn't real. Like unicorn.

As far as those photos go, I think the most likely explanation is going o be the most simple one, which is that someone has faked them.

But maybe the word came into being BEACUSE of the entity...
not the other way round.


and unicorn is more symbolic than an actual winged creature..wasn't it?
The pursuit of perfection and all that.....

Take UFos as another example then. No doubt people do see flying objects they can't explain, but the term has come to mean flying machines from another world, which is how people think of them - that doesn't mean to say that is what they are.

Ah yeah..but it's fun speculating and investigating and listening to all the tales and things.

As far as those photos go, I think the most likely explanation is going o be the most simple one, which is that someone has faked them.
That's one explanation for sure.
But I definately believe in the existence of ghosts so i like looking at these pictures and thinking that they could and in fact may be real.

I too believe in all this stuff (as I have said many times). The fact that there may be something out there on other planets or after this life is exciting and does get my adrenaline pumping! I have to believe, it is a must for me. I absolutly find it stupid when I watch UFO shows and hear the "experts" call something that is obviously round, silver and moving very fast a "large bird."!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/liberated60s/wales4sm.jpg

If one imagines the two lights to be eyes, then it looks remarkably similar to one of my old primary school teachers......

http://paranormal.about.com/library/graphics/fire_girl_lg.jpg


crikey PJ - this one's actually sending a shiver down my spine.......brrrrrr!!

It is clever what these photographers can do in their spare time, but even so, the process is not important - it's the effect. Good pic!

I can't imagine what I would do if I was walking through that building (is it a church?) and looked up to see that? - it'd frighten the bejesus out of me. First thing i'd ask the Victorian girl-spectre is "whoawhao....whooahhhoo.......whh...ooo...aa..whhoo aaa?", then i'd probably just leg it, if the old wobbly legs would permit me to.....

It's almost tempting to want to believe it is real. Then again perhaps it could be.

http://paranormal.about.com/library/graphics/brown_lady_lg.jpg

.........not convinced by this one though. Definite trickery!

http://www.jesusreligion.com/angels_exist.jpg

macabre!......most macabre......

.....you never know......you just never know.......it's a maybe for me....but that's all it is. I'm more shocked that the lucky ****** survived!

I don't buy into the "orbs" business.

orbs = dust

.....and that's that! (don't care what the Fielding woman and the Acorah bloke say.......humbug!!)

just this very moment concocted this one......

Q: did you hear the one about the paranormal investigation club, the members of which all picked up mysterious sores on one of their outings?

A: they all turned sceptic......:mellow:

all the Most Haunted Lives I've seen have been flops.

......so it's not just me??......

I think that if you removed the "v" from the title then you would have the more aptly named "Most Haunted Lie" - which would sum the programme up well enough for me.

Gee you post alot. I can see that you are very skeptical and it is a great oppurtunity to talk to one then. I just have one question, why do you not believe in all this stuff?