There is something utterly pathetic about watching Michael Barrymore cry with such great sobbing hulks of self pity.

I'm not against men crying, or women. What I am against is the pathetic dribblings of a 55 year old hasbeen doing it for maximum sympathy and blaming other people (Chantelle and Jodie) for his misery! The man is a loser and if he isn't hounded out of the country the minute he leaves the big brother house then I will cry!!!

It seems to me that he is still "ill", hence the continual crying. This seems to be brought on when he's in confrontational situations. So why TF does he either perpetuate them (usually having been started by Pete) or start them himself. He is no more or less manipulative than Jodie. They are the same. Both "damaged" both wanting to be "liked". And Georgie Boy thinks MB's going to win! Man, is he in for a shock.

There's something quite disturbing about watching George crawling round Michael, bringing him a coat and - I can't believe it - did he kiss him on the forehead?

It's ok for a grown man to cry (and woman actually) when he's not in the corner of my living room

- did he kiss him on the forehead?

He did and I thought it was quite a sweet and genuine show of freindship.

I think George is manipulating everyone and if Michael Barrymore is on anti depressants they are not working. I think the whole incident where they ganged up on Jodie didn't show any of them in a good light, maybe with the exception of Maggot.

Chantelle is an air head but collectively they are spoiling what should have been an amazing experience for her by trying to make her choose who she can be friendly with.

The one person she is most likely to run after CBB is Jodie as they live in the same area and frequent the same places so she wouldn't want to be unfriendly to her.

I almost felt sorry for Jodey tonight because of the ganging up against her and she did stand her ground in a very hostile room but her previous behavior has badly let her down.

Michael was only reduced to tears after George started bumming him up to win, but he let them think it was Chantelle that had upset him.

There is something utterly pathetic about watching Michael Barrymore cry with such great sobbing hulks of self pity.

I'm not against men crying, or women. What I am against is the pathetic dribblings of a 55 year old hasbeen doing it for maximum sympathy and blaming other people (Chantelle and Jodie) for his misery! The man is a loser and if he isn't hounded out of the country the minute he leaves the big brother house then I will cry!!!

Much as I dont like him much, I doubt you can fake the mood swings and the look of utter and total defeat in his eyes sometimes.

His crying? I dont know whether its self pity or the fact that he cant handle situations when he gets compliments. George mentioned he wanted him to win and come back to the UK, triumphant. Barrymore excused himself and then started crying.

Tonights highlights were edited so badly and chopped up so much, I wasnt sure whether Barrymore was crying because of what Jodie and Chantelle had said to him (not shown but mentioned by George) or the fact that GG complimented him.

All I do know is that he is a mess. Acting the arssse one minute, crying self pityingly the next, shouting and being belligerent an hour later....

Its uncomfortable to watch sometimes.

I do thinks its ok for men to cry - it shows their softer side .... but Micheal Barrymore's crying is bordering on the pathetic. He slates Jodie for being emotional, but so far this week EVERY SINGLE NIGHT he has been in tears. Its truly a sorry sight.


As an aside, i have never seen my husband cry. I have known him for 14 years, and not a single tear has trickled. I asked him the other day if he would cry at my funeral and he just smirked at me :unsure: I did wonder why he insisted on bringing a cutting of the Deadly Nightshade we had in our last back garden with him to the new house :shocking:

I think Barrymore is just as bad a Jody Marsh for attention seeking.

He's still obviously very disturbed from past events but then he shouldn't have agreed to do celeb BB. I just do not like the man at all. Bullying one minute, crying like a victim the next. He is a loser of the highest degree.

There is something utterly pathetic about watching Michael Barrymore cry with such great sobbing hulks of self pity.

I'm not against men crying, or women. What I am against is the pathetic dribblings of a 55 year old hasbeen doing it for maximum sympathy and blaming other people (Chantelle and Jodie) for his misery! The man is a loser and if he isn't hounded out of the country the minute he leaves the big brother house then I will cry!!!

Hello Dolores,

I personally think its alright for grown men, grown woman and chidren of either sex to cry whenever they feel a need to.

I find it deplorable that society expects a boy or a man not cry, because something has been found to be personally upsetting, as a result men sometimes find it increasingly difficult to express how they really feel, and those who do we assume effeminate -not macho -not men- in some ways pathetic, as you indicated above.

It is dangerous mentally to hold back on emotions, as those who need treatment in the many institutions will no doubt tell you. It is dangerous to your physical well being also to hold back on whatever ails you - whether you are a man or a woman. Bottling problems up does not solve them, we are all human, warts and all ..nothing is that shameful it needs hiding.

To give you an example, my cousins wife came to me with a problem on Tuesday this week, (she simply had to speak with someone she could trust) she had found a lump in her breast. She told me it is something she feels she can't speak about with her family yet and at present can't bring herself to have it examined. So she did exactly what I would have done, she wallowed in tears contemplating the worst possible scenario. Doubling her fears is the fact that she's adopted, and knows nothing of the medical history of her real mother, or blood line family. Over the next few days - I am going to make a deliberate effort to try and get her to talk about it, at least with the other female members of the family, and no doubt there will many tears shed by all. At the moment this has been a private matter for her, over the last 3 weeks. Hopefully with support we will get this checked out. My cousin however I am in a quandry about - I feel he should know but as yet, I am bound by a promise not to speak out.

Tears feelings of self pity are fine especially if in select company and in private.

Big brother is CRAP. I CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO EVEN WATCH 10 MINUTES. I am also not a fan of Michael Barrymore and couldn't even tell you how many housemates are in the big brother household or what channel it is on.

MAUREEN
NORTHERN ANGEL

Hello Dolores,

I personally think its alright for grown men, grown woman and chidren of either sex to cry whenever they feel a need to.

I find it deplorable that society expects a boy or a man not cry, because something has been found to be personally upsetting, as a result men sometimes find it increasingly difficult to express how they really feel, and those who do we assume effeminate -not macho -not men- in some ways pathetic, as you indicated above.

It is dangerous mentally to hold back on emotions, as those who need treatment in the many institutions will no doubt tell you. It is dangerous to your physical well being also to hold back on whatever ails you - whether you are a man or a woman. Bottling problems up does not solve them, we are all human, warts and all ..nothing is that shameful it needs hiding.



Whilst I agree that you need to let your emotions go once in a while and yes, men are guilty of not doing this, I do think that turning on the waterworks to gain sympathy and turn the screws into someone you don't like is just screaming for attention and can be deemed as emotional blackmail.

I think men do need to cry more and I have nothing against men crying when they have a genuine need for it but in the case of Michael Barrymore he is just being pathetic, especially when he gives Jodie a hard time for doing exactly the same thing!

Whilst I agree that you need to let your emotions go once in a while and yes, men are guilty of not doing this, I do think that turning on the waterworks to gain sympathy and turn the screws into someone you don't like is just screaming for attention and can be deemed as emotional blackmail.

I think men do need to cry more and I have nothing against men crying when they have a genuine need for it but in the case of Michael Barrymore he is just being pathetic, especially when he gives Jodie a hard time for doing exactly the same thing!

I think the main three snivellers, Barrymore, Faria and Jodie, have all at one time or another been acting and playing up to the cameras.

Watching Barrymore frequently go into an emotional collapse though has started to make for cringing, uncomfortable viewing....

Can I just say that the very fact that someone has started this thread suggests that it is generally not considered acceptable for a man to cry.

Nice one sf.

The thread is obv. about Barrymore, but as far as the question posed 'when is it alright for a grown man to cry' - I would say anytime, if he cut his finger, bashed his leg, crashed his car, got wound up at work, was insulted, lost a friend etc etc etc.

I'm not a psychiatrist, but I do have a fair bit of experience (unfortunately) dealing with the severely mentally ill.

In my opinion, the guy could be sectioned under the mental health act. He is quite clearly bang in the middle of a nervous breakdown.