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mikado
08-03-2006, 02:22 PM
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article349913.ece

1% of the titled land in the world is owned by women

A baby girl born in the UK is likely to live to 81 - but if she is born in Swaziland, she is likely to die at 39

70% of the 1.2 bn people living in poverty are women and children

21% of the world's managers are female

62% of unpaid family workers are female

9% of judges, 10% of company directors and 10% of top police officers in the UK are women

Women comprise 55% of the world's population aged over 60 years old and 65% of those aged over 80

£970,000 is the difference between lifetime earnings of men and women in the UK finance sector

85m girls worldwide are unable to attend school, compared with 45m boys. In Chad, just 4% of girls go to school.

700,000,000 women are without adequate food, water, sanitation, health care or education (compared with 400,000,000 men)

Women in full-time jobs earn an average 17% less than British men

Women in part-time jobs earn an average 42% less than British men

67% of all illiterate adults are women

1,440 women die each day during childbirth (a rate of one death every minute)

1 in 7 women in Ethiopia die in pregnancy or childbirth (it is one in 19,000 in Britain)

In the US, 35% of lawyers are women but just 5% are partners in law firms

In the EU, women comprise 3% of chief execs of major companies

12 is the number of world leaders who are women (out of 191 members of the United Nations)

Men directed 9 out of every 10 films made in 2004


So... are womens rights something we should get more concerned about? Or is it just the way things are?

Aondeag
08-03-2006, 02:37 PM
Gawd..where to start! Women have been concerned about these issues for years and years.
Things aint changed much since Emily threw herself under the hooves of the horse.
:ranting:

Slipper
09-03-2006, 08:57 AM
Yes it has....

These days you get the opportunity to whine in public....






Feckin' Liberty I tell ya

Aondeag
09-03-2006, 09:01 AM
Yes..and we get our own International Women's Day too.Give us an inch and we take a mile.
Be afraid boys...only another 34 years to go.By 2040 there will be as many women politicians as men!

Slipper
09-03-2006, 10:06 AM
Yes..and we get our own International Women's Day too.Give us an inch and we take a mile.
Be afraid boys...only another 34 years to go.By 2040 there will be as many women politicians as men!

And so on th basis that many of th male pollies are gay, the house will have loads of Lesbians fighting each other... That'll make for an increase in the ratings and popularity

The thing is that the stats above are not in perspective with each other. What was the sources. I didn't know the people of Chad did a cencus...live and learn!!?

Aondeag
09-03-2006, 10:16 AM
The source was just 'trends'..based on the aggregate amount of women choosing careers in politics etc in recent years.Blah blah.And if the trend continues it SHOULD reach a balance by 2040.More women leaders have been elected in recent years, so i guess they are just going by that.

(I was at a lecture to mark International Women's day yesterday..it was late..i was hungry...I just heard bits.)

mikado
09-03-2006, 12:53 PM
Two things. Firstly the question as to whether women will ever get a 50/50 share of top jobs, money, etc. It seems to me that as long as women are saddled with childbirth they will always (on average) lag behind men. So Aondaeg I'm sceptical whether your trend will continue to 2040.

Second thing is, looking at some of these godawful statistics about deaths in childbirth and suchlike, I'm sure that a large part of the problem is simply poverty, but to what degree are cultural factors also to blame. In many parts of the world women get a really, really rough deal. Shouldn't we do more to change things? Or should we just leave, say, Chad to its own devices?

Aondeag
09-03-2006, 02:35 PM
Hey Mikado..they ain't my statistics...I was just repeating one statistic that stuck in my head, from a lecture yesterday. :-)
Don't know if women will ever break the glass ceiling, but if not, it won't be from lack of trying, I hope.

(Where are all the women...I thought this thread would be brimful of em'!)

mikado
09-03-2006, 03:02 PM
Sure thing AD, but the stats raise an interesting question. Is it natural and normal for there to be fewer women in "top" jobs - because women are far more likely to be distracted by child rearing than men? Or because of natural aptitude(???) Or is it something we should worry about, when women have less than 50% share?

Slipper
09-03-2006, 03:52 PM
(Where are all the women...I thought this thread would be brimful of em'!)

They are all either in the kitchen getting the dinner ready for the boys when they get home of fussing about discussing whats for dinner tonight or discussing shoes and hair
:naughty:




>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doors this way and I'll get my coat myself thanks>>>>>>>>>>>

Fee For All
09-03-2006, 04:20 PM
Actually we're having a pm debate as to whether there's a correlation between number of posts and penile dimensions.

I think it's less a case of childbearing years and more about a difference in what motivates and satisfies the different genders.

Men (and I'm generalising here, I know) tend to pitch for the top slots because they are, well, top. It's more about the position and rank than the job itself. And to get there they will crawl, golf, brown-nose, backstab, politick themselves into the ground, whatever it takes. The job is secondary to the pursuit.

A woman on the other hand is more likely to get her motivation and satisfaction from doing a job well. Women are less likely to get involved in the boardroom politics and will stay focused on the task in hand. And women are less likely to promote themselves.

For example, take a job advertisement that lists, say, five qualities that are required. If a man spots one he can claim, he will apply for the job. A woman however will tick four, realise she can't meet the last one and decide she can't do the job.

A lot of companies do do a lot of work to address the inequality. Interestingly, a lot of this work is about educating women in how men think, so they can better cope. Not the other way round, and not about understanding both sides better.

However, while women could be described as better managers/leaders, they are not so good at risk-taking - and of course these are both important in business.

I think it boils down to human nature really. Man goes out and bags the dinosaur; woman transforms it from a lump of dead meat into something useful while man goes down the campfire to make his pitch for tribe leader.

Pity we haven't moved on much really :unsure:

mikado
09-03-2006, 04:43 PM
I think it's less a case of childbearing years and more about a difference in what motivates and satisfies the different genders.
Aaaahhhh - that's explains the secret of Survivorfan's popularity!

So you don't take the feminist line then? It's ok for men to take a larger share of the "top" jobs as it's in our nature? :)

Coastie
09-03-2006, 05:03 PM
Just remember...behind every successful man is a woman he is trying to impress and keep happy! In light of this men do all the work...women soak up the benefits...so who's really got tyheir noodles straight! :cool2:

Oh and don't forget many African countries have religious beliefs which are derogatory towards women and so their oportunities are reduced greatly in light of this...

Men couldn't possibly die from child birth and well generally in most western civilisations as a rule women live longer anyway! :bye:

Fee For All
09-03-2006, 05:41 PM
No I'm not a feminist Mik - why should I lower my standards by striving to meet male levels :kid:

I'm for equality, and I believe to achieve it that compromises need to be made on both sides.

And I believe parental rights are a double-edged sword, particularly for women.