A friend of Steve Irwins has just been on the news saying that he has watched the footage of exactly what happened to Steve. He was, of course, very upset by this saying after all you are watching someone die. So my question is could you watch a recording or a friend or loved one dying? I think I could watch with most people in my family, except for one which would be my daughter. The trouble with watching though is that you are then stuck with that image in your head for the rest of your life.

Oh yes i could easily watch my Horrible Mother in law being eaten by a shark, what wonderful viewing that would be. BLISS.:naughty:

as for any other member of my family or friends. NO THANKS.

It's very unlikely isn't it - I mean, the death of someone close to you being recorded? So the chances of being put in that position are just about zero.

What is more likely to happen to anyone here is that someone is ill and dying and you might be with them when they draw their last breath.

The question then is would you want to be with someone close when they die?

Just what I was going to say, Swerve. If a loved one was on their death bed, of course I would want to be there. I wouldn't want to watch anyone I love suffer.

The way Steve Irwin died was horrible. Just to imagine what was going through his mind..........

if a member of my family were on their death bed that's different i would want to spend their last minutes with them, but i would'nt want to watch a member of my family on film being killed, it's too horrible for words...................except for my Mother in law.

The question then is would you want to be with someone close when they die?

Depends if it's a plane crash ?


The way Steve Irwin died was horrible. Just to imagine what was going through his mind..........

I imagine "CRIKEY" or "STREWTH" :naughty:


Hey I love this debating stuff :smartie:

because i hate flying, i always wonder what thoughts would go through my mind if the plane went down Something like i wish i had a bloody parachute probably.

why do some people have death wishes and other don't? puzzle.

I'm stricken going to 'open casket' funerals and have nightmares forever, and I don't watch things that are really gory on tv or movies...so no. I know they are publishing a book on Princess Di's last moments and I just don't think I could see it...I'm not a looker at these things. I can 'read' about such in my mysteries and what not, but to see...??? don't think so, don't know.

Downright ghoulish and macabre if you ask me!!!

Oh yes i could easily watch my Horrible Mother in law being eaten by a shark, what wonderful viewing that would be. BLISS.:naughty:

as for any other member of my family or friends. NO THANKS.

And would you comfort your husband as you were watching his mother die a horrible death?! :ghost:

I suppose in today's world of video cameras, phone cameras etc then accidents being recorded is probably happening more then you think.

I remember being glued to the TV on the day of 9/11 and the days that followed it watching the footage over & over again. Yes, it was horrible every last minute of it but I just couldn't seem to walk away until my daughter started asking questions about what happened and who were killed and did this person die, did that person die? And I am doing the same thing again as I watched a bit of 9/11 thing on Channel 4 on Saturday and watched the one last night.

How many people do think downloaded and watched the beheading of Kenneth Bigley? I was shocked when one of our friends said he watched it - different if it was shown on a newsreel or something but to actually download and watch the horrifying last minutes of this hostage fills me with disgust.....but then come to think of it was it any different to what I was doing re 9/11................

And would you comfort your husband as you were watching his mother die a horrible death?! :ghost:



yes i would comfort him, but i would'nt dive in and save the ole bat.

Ok, so how would you feel if your husband had these thoughts about your mother or what about when your children grow up how would you feel if their spouses wished this sort of thing on you? And what if your husband dived in to save her.............would you forgive him?

I don't get on with my mother in law but she is the mother of husband, my daughters granny and I would never wish any harm to her.

I remember being glued to the TV on the day of 9/11 and the days that followed it watching the footage over & over again. Yes, it was horrible every last minute of it but I just couldn't seem to walk away

And I am doing the same thing again as I watched a bit of 9/11 thing on Channel 4 on Saturday and watched the one last night.

I was exactly the same as you Bella. I remember being at work when the first plane flew into the tower, and i logged onto the BBC website trying to digest what was happening. I then tuned into the TV at home at just sat watching for hours.

I too watched Saturdays program, and i was glued.

If it were my own family, yeah i would be with them till the very end. I wouldnt want them to die alone. I wouldnt want to die alone either.

I'm sure the video of Steve will be available for all to see fairly soon - perhaps his wife will send it off to you been framed!

I certainly couldn't watch something like that, I couldn't watch a friend's wedding video for a long time cos my boyfriend, who died three weeks later, was in the video. I also never went to see his body on the slab or in the casket - his sister said I would regret it for the rest of my life if I didn't go and see him - I didn't and I haven't.

...I couldn't watch a friend's wedding video for a long time cos my boyfriend, who died three weeks later, was in the video. I also never went to see his body on the slab or in the casket - his sister said I would regret it for the rest of my life if I didn't go and see him - I didn't and I haven't.

Dol, my sister to this day is still MAD at me for not going to the funeral home to see my Dad in his casket. He asked for a closed casket military service (he was in the Korean Conflict), and that was what he got. The family were offered the chance to come down and see him the night before the service...I refused. I had the memories I wanted of him and they did not include him being in a box. I DID attend my Granny's funeral and it was open casket and I actually felt at peace b/c she had been suffering so much and they had made her look so lovely and peaceful...it just bothered me a tiny bit. I had a friend die about 5 weeks b/4 we were supposed to meet up with another friend for Mardi Gras with our families, I had seen him and his family just a month or so before that and have the pictures and I have trouble looking at them without getting a little torn up. Overall, I'm not a 'dead person' viewer.

I won't watch the news because it's too gruesome, so the chances of me watching such a video are zero - and if it were one of my family I would detroy it before anyone else could watch it as well. I doubt I would go visit someone who was dead either MSGirl, I've never really seen the point myself... still if it helps others then it's alright for them.

I was just at a cremation in Indonesia.

There was a choice of wood burning or oven, wood being 5 hours, oven 2, so we went oven.

After the cremation, the family is invited to view the "ashes", which are actually not ashes at all. The cremation people pointed out what was wood, and what was body, with the skull and various large bones clearly identifiable, and they then proceed to crush the large bones with hammers to turn everything to smaller matter (family watching if they choose, which we did, but I was in a kind of trance).

I wish I had not gone to that part.

I went to a cremation in England and last view was a coffin sliding behind a curtain, then the classical ashes appear later. Got me thinking, are there "crushers" in England too? Or are the ovens more efficient and really do turn everything to ash?

But, sticking to topic, no, I wouldn't watch the video unless I was given it. Then I would go into the same trance and watch it.... and wish I hadn't.

I know off topic but had to reply Gatubela.

I visited a crematorium a while back and had a tour 'round the back' of the place.

After a body has been in the ovens, some bones are still visible (mainly the hip joints and bigger bits). They then put the remains in this machine that crushes the remaining bones to dust (they look like tumble driers with some stones in to crush the bones) and then put everything into the urn.

A bit macabre but I really enjoyed that visit.

I had this chat with someone on the same topic and they said if you want to watch shock, look up the Nick Berg beheading.

So I did, and wish I didn't.

But then I read it was all fake, but still not pleasant viewing.

Thanks for the info on the cremations Andrea, it answered some of my mental wonderings and put them to rest.

Strange question!

I couldn't, I can't understand why anyone would want to:blink:
Though I suppose it will find its way onto the internet one day.

As for viewing a body, that's different, I think it comes down to how you feel at the time. Maybe now you think you would (or wouldn't) as the case may be, but when faced with it, at the time, you may feel very different and 'need' to see the departed person. I dont think its a decision you can definitively make before the event. I think if you trust your gut feeling at the time you wont regret your decision.

What puzzles me is the fact that people, with names and loved ones, suddenly turn into 'bodies' when they die or are killed, (even to close relatives), to some people. They somehow become something to be feared, I can't understand that at all.

I think there is too much mystery associated with death, Im fascinated that Andrea went to see a behind the scenes crem, its a good idea, it makes death and the processes we will all have to go through at some time more a part of life and take some of the 'scariness' away.

An aside, but important to some I suppose. Some pet crematoriums are not all they may seem. A friend of mine was mortified and desperately upset when she discovered she had paid almost £600 to have her horse cremated and ashes returned, and despite the fancy website and suitably sympathetic and efficient tone of the place and its staff , found out that their 'oven' could hold no more than a sheep and that 'over-large animals' were dismembered before cremation!

M

An aside, but important to some I suppose. Some pet crematoriums are not all they may seem. A friend of mine was mortified and desperately upset when she discovered she had paid almost £600 to have her horse cremated and ashes returned, and despite the fancy website and suitably sympathetic and efficient tone of the place and its staff , found out that their 'oven' could hold no more than a sheep and that 'over-large animals' were dismembered before cremation!

M

I have heard similar. Also, when a dog / cat gets cremated you dont just get the ashes back for your pet. The 'rules' are more relaxed for pets, and in your pot you will get remnants of Fido, Rover and Minxy. It wont be all your beloved animal.

I also never went to see his body on the slab or in the casket - his sister said I would regret it for the rest of my life if I didn't go and see him - I didn't and I haven't.

With you on that Dol, I chose not to do the same thing with my father many years ago, and have never regreted it. I still remember him the same way I last saw him, walking around and smiling, not in a casket.