Has everyone given up on this now or is anyone still watching?

I must admit the storylines have been awful lately and I've missed a lot but I just wondered if I'm right in thinking that Ian has no intention of marrying Jane - he's just setting her up so that he can humiliate her on the big day as payback for her affair with Grant?

He just seems to do that horrible "smirk" when the wedding's mentioned and he cancelled the reception that she booked didn't he?

Is he just going to do like dirty Den did with Angie all those years ago when he gave her the divorce papers as her Christmas present do you think? Ian's "present" will be to leave her standing at the altar I think.

Ive stopped watching it. I think I stopped when Phil 'Im reading my words off a card' Daniels came into it, along with Honey. Both as wooden as my skirting board.

Its a pile of utter cac.

I dont watch it very often. Just enough to know a few of the storylines. Its one of those soaps that if i dont see it for days, im really not bothered.

Honey completely does my head in. Why did they bring in a 'Little Mo' replica ? I really dont like Sean, who seem to have no depth, and no character.

All in all, it is a bore fest.

I watch it if it's on and I'm sat there in front of the box,but like bons I ain't bovvered.

Nearly all the characters irritate or bore me, the storylines are weak and the dialogue laughable. I'm sure Peggy said exactly the same lines twice in one episode and obviously the writer/director couldn't be arsed to re-write them....

And wtf is Phil's lawyer about?:bored:

Give us a break........

I hardly ever watch anymore and i am bemused as to why it wins any awards.

If your mum told you she had a brain tumour wouldn't you be on to the hospital like a hot snot finding out all about it - prognosis, treatment, care in the home etc?

Oh no, just dumping your girlfriend is the way to go apparantly.:wacko:

And the whole Ian/Jane wedding fiaso is just lazy writing.

might watch tonight though!:kid:

I havent seen this for so many months, I barely know who anyone is in it anymore.

However, walnut faced Pawwwwleeen is going to cark it on Christmas Day (murdered even, maybe), so I may have to watch to see what happens.

Well, if you do watch Pan, let me know what happens as i wont be able to watch tomorrow (TV's are banned at my mums house on Xmas Day)

Well I mentioned it to Mr Pan and he looked horrified at the thought of having to sit through Eastenders, complete with snow (it always snows at Christmas in Walford), people selling chestnuts on street corners, a band playing etc..... Its the east end but not as we know it....... lol. :laugh:

Ill try and snuck a glance though.

Okay Bonnie, I saw the late episode of EE. Briefly here is what happened :-

Stacey, now the next reincarnation of Kat Slater had an outburst in the Vic, got thrown out and Max (Bradley's Dad) followed her back to the house where they snogged and bonked.

Mysteriously, Tanya didnt question for nearly two hours where her husband had got to.

Stacey threatened to tell all about the bonking episode, after Max told her it was all a mistake. He then changed tack, told his son, Bradley (who was warming to Stacey again), not to bother with her, and then stood at the bar of the Queen Vic squeezing Stacey's bum after she went back and apologised.

We had the usual EE 'comedy' moment *deep sigh* with Minty falling off a ladder and Phil Mitchell having to take Mintys place as Santa. Incidentally Steve McFadden who plays Phil looks like he is heading for an imminent heart attack, such is the colour of his face. His blood pressure must be sky high. Oh and his Santa was the stuff of nightmares.

Wossername and Billy Mitchell return from the hospital saying Petal is getting better.

The antichrist, Ben Mitchell, plays tricks on everyone throughout the night, sticking a smoke bomb in the fire and smoking out the pub, much to the mirth of his father and the pished off-ness of everyone else. His relationship with the unlikely girlfriend of Phil deteriorated even further.

Pauline is packing her stuff. A black cab is waiting outside. Sonia decides to go over to the house for one last attempt at keeping her in Walford. Pauline is vile to Sonia, Sonia is vile back and all sorts of past memories and nasty things are said, culminating in Pauline throwing insults at Sonia calling her family scum, saying she should be ashamed at getting pregnant at - what was it, 9 or something? - and the fact shes been a lesbian, then she hasnt been, then shes back with Martin etc etc........ Sonia gives her a sidewinder of a smack and Pauline falls on the floor smashing a glass bowl. Sonia is immediately sorry but Pauline tells her to get out. As Sonia leaves, we see a Christmas card leaning against the living room window that has been left there secretly by the little girl Rebecca (who has obviously seen the fight). Later, back at the pub, we see Rebecca giving Sonia scared looks.

Pauline then dwells on stuff and changes her mind about going. By now the black cab must be up to about £60 quid. She rings Martins phone but he doesnt hear it. She leaves a message on it and then goes over to Dots to leave Rebecca her present, then realises they are all at the pub. She turns to go over to The Vic and as she crosses the square she rubs her head and starts looking woozy. She gets to Arthurs bench and collapses. (at this point I burst out laughing because as she fell heavily, Betty the dog was right at her feet and Pauline nearly fell on her, causing Betty to yelp in fright).

Everyone at the pub realises its snowing and come outside for a snowball fight and Dot discovers Pauline's body. Martin suddenly discovers he has medical powers and just by kneeling two feet away announces to all that "She's DEAAAAADDDDDDDD!!!!"

heh.

MARTIN: She's dead. I haven't checked her pulse or anything. No Sonia, don't check her over even though you're a nurse - I told you she's dead!

:glare:

I think it was pretty bad killing her off like that, couldnt she have just gone off to live with Shell? Although I am not a fan of EE or Wendy Richard (she complained about some friends of mine a few years ago being too noisy in a wine bar - boo) I think she could have been given a more dignified ending, mind you doesnt she look rough these days?:ill:

I have heard and read in interviews with Wendy Richards that she was very unhappy with the way her character was being changed. She didnt believe that Pauline would of got married again .... and she hated the way she had become a nasty old woman. She didnt think it was plausible.

Because of her complaints, and i think a few rows with the producers, she was bumped off.

I can remember Joe coming into the show and the storyline with Pauline and him falling in love and marrying was the worst acted Ive ever seen. He is an appalling actor and you could tell that Wendy Richard didnt believe in the plot one bit as she wasnt even trying. And as usual in EE, they had them just holding hands one week and married the next. Totally unrealistic.

EE Producers have a habit of bumping people off that offend them. They did it with Pete Beale (thank god), Tiffany, Barry (who wanted time off to do panto and they said no, so he had a strop) and now Pauline. Oh and of course, Dirty Den, though after what had happened with him, I could see their point....

Did anyone notice that when Pauline popped her clogs, it was snowing in the Square (why does it ALWAYS snow in Walford at Christmas?) but when they did the funeral scenes with Dot, Rebecca and Sonia sitting on that seat in the graveyard it was suddenly late autumn again with the ground strewn with leaves?
:sly:

I think its the law in Albert Square that it always snows at Christmas.

May I just take this opportunity to point out just how many murderers we have in Albert Square? Its absolutely bloody ludicrous !!!!

Sonia has just killed Pauline (probably).
Janine murdered Barry.
Johnny Allan murdered Andy the betting shop owner and rubbish gangster.
Jake Moon murdered Dennis Rickman.
Chrissie Watts murdered Den Watts.
Steve Owen killed Saskia.
Phil Mitchell torched the car lot and killed a tramp sleeping in a car.
Nick Cotton murdered Eddie Royle (way back when.)
Pat Butcher killed a young boy by knocking him down in her car whilst drunk.
Frank Butcher killed Tiffany Mitchell by knocking her down in the Square.
Dot killed Ethel by giving her an overdose.
Martin Fowler killed Jamie Mitchell by knocking him down in a car.

Anymore for anymore????

The list of murders and accidental killings is ridiculously long and EE scriptwriters really ought to get their heads out of their asses and sort it ahhhhhhhhhttttt.....

*edit* - sorry I was wrong... Thought Little Mo killed her husband with the iron but he didn't die from that did he?

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*edit* - sorry I was wrong... Thought Little Mo killed her husband with the iron but he didn't die from that did he?

No, he died in a fire, though how he managed NOT to die when being battered with a huge iron defied belief.... :huh:

Was i alone in wishing that Martin WOULD actually push Ben off the bridge last night ? I cant stand that kid :devil:

good grief no you're not alone - the child is an abomination.

I was just thinking last night, why do all the characters in east enders have to be SO irritatingly stupid? Is it the writers are too lazy or insufficiently skilled to write intellegent dialogue?

I mean it's not the actors' fault - some of them [not all obviously] are perfectly adept character actors. I'm sure they could 'act' smart as well as they do 'stoopid' innit?

It just annoys me - I used to enjoy this show, albeit a long time ago now......

Well, I watched Pauline's demise as she thudded to the ground next to Arfur's bench at Christmas, (almost killing Betty the dog in the process who squawked in fright and ran off). Since then Ive not watched the diabolical excuse for a programme, until yesterday when I had a boatload of ironing to do and decided to watch the omnibus.

Its amazing that whenyou havent seen a programme in nearly a year, how you notice just how poor some of the acting is. Kevin (Phil Daniels out of Quadrophenia) and Carly his daughter really ought to be flogged to death in the square for crimes against acting school.

Pat has put all her weight back on and thankfully that face that was full of lines has filled out a bit. She still looks like a leopardskin galleon in full sail when she walks into the Vic though. She and Shirley (ex Bad Girls) are currently fighting for the title of East End Hatchet Face of The Year - though if Jo O'Meara joins the Square, they've got no chance.

Sonia was running around the square like a halloween ghoul, wailing and gnashing her teeth whilst all the time wearing a vile unflattering black coat, sporting greasy hair and no make up. She must have REALLY made an enemy of someone in the wardrobe dept over the years, thats all I can say.

Dot Cotton and Joe Macer (Pauline's husband who she loathed even when taking the wedding vows apparently) have a tete a tete in Pauline's old bedroom where he reveals that he snuck in, during the five minutes between Sonia whacking Pauline and running off and Pauline actually carking it, had a huge row with Pauline during which she had said some wickedly evil things about him, and hit her with a frying pan, thereby killing her.

Dot starts shouting he should give himself up, a drunken Joe tries to put his hand over her mouth, just as Jim appears looking for Dot.
There is a brief struggle and Joe Macer catapults through Pauline's bedroom window as if fired from a large cannon, onto the pavement below, looking a bit dead. All this in front of little Rebecca, who if she isnt traumatised by seeing Pauline being punched by Sonia, her Mother then taken away by the Police, being pulled from pillar to post by her parents and now seeing someone plummet from a first floor window to their death, she surely will be by Joe's godawful acting - because it was so diabolical it was laughable.

In the words of Catherine Tate's east end gran, "Wodda pile of ol' sh*ttttt....."

So, what does everyone think of the baby storyline ? I was quite disturbed when May was hidden in the bedroom whilst her husband and the permanently shocked one were having sex :mellow:

I don't think I would say I was disturbed exactly, more like just thinking "as if........". It's really disappointing these days. I still watch it but it's just habit and half the time I'm on the computer at the same time so don't take it all in.

I find I don't really care about any of the current characters. Looks like they're going to dig up the Stacey/Bradley thing again. I can't remember if Bradley ever found out about his Dad and Stacey?

I find I don't really care about any of the current characters. Looks like they're going to dig up the Stacey/Bradley thing again. I can't remember if Bradley ever found out about his Dad and Stacey?

No, he doesn't know about her and Max. But secrets dont stay secret for long in the square.

No, he doesn't know about her and Max. But secrets dont stay secret for long in the square.

Aaah thanks. So we can expect a few fireworks and major drama when that all kicks off. I might find it more interesting then. :good:

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I stopped watching weeks ago!

Im getting quite into it again .... but i have never liked Honey and its a shame she is back in it again. Plus (this is a spoiler, but hey ho) i think she is about to become pregnant again, so she will be in a major storyline once more.

The May / baby storyline is still happening, cor are they dragging this out !!! I feel like this storyline has been going on for yonks, but the pregnant one (cant remember her name) isn't even 3 months gone yet !!

I wonder when something is going to happened with Max and Stacey. When will they be found out ? I really like Stacey, and i feel she is being wasted with this never ending story.

I'm still keeping one eye on it. The May/baby storyline is pretty boring but I still want to know what Stella is up to with Ben. She's creepy. Looks like Stacey is going to try and dress less like a tart which seems a bit daft seeing as she usually just acts like one.

Honey and Billy are just a "filler" and as for the Kevin thing :sleepy: I wish they'd all leave.

I watched it last night and tonight to see Gary's mum, one of the Julie's from Bad Girls......dunno what she will do when she comes face to face with Yvonne in the Vic.....

Scarey Stella is getting scarier, Ben looks more and more like Damien, Max Branning is still butt ugly and there is no totty.....so yeah, still a bit pants!!!

There are two Michell slappers coming into it later this summer - Roxanne and someone, who are Billy's sisters if anyone is interested.