Emily has been kicked out of the house for using a racially offensive word.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother8/a59894/emily-kicked-out-for-racial-slur.html

Blimey :surrender:

having read the transcript the whole thing was made worse by repetition of the said word and then Emily's awful attempts to try and pass the whole thing off as "no big deal". I think what happened was that she was trying to be all "street" when dancing with Charley and it all went a bit pear shaped.:shocking:

not much BB could do but bin her.:good:

ha!!!!! serves her right, the word she used is vile and offensive, this will teach the snotty madam that its not big and its not clever...........she is sooooooo up herself, bet that took the wind right out of her sails :w00t:

Regardless of whether or not she "says this to her friends all the time" - jokey tone or not - she should not be saying it to someone she's known for a week, if at all. Silly bint. Totally deserved.

Oh, what a shame. I was quite enjoying her trying wriggle out of self-induced awkward situations. One faux pas too far.

Silly posh ****. Trying to be street should always be left to the commoners, eh Fee?

If I'm honest, I don't think she is racist. She is however, an astonishingly stupid little girl.

If she wasn't to realise how much of an effect using such a word would have after the whole Jade-Shilpa row, then she shouldn't be in a position where 4-5 million people are watching what she is doing every night.

She was using the word to try and look 'cool' and see if she could break a taboo. It was incredibly foolish. I can't believe she wouldn't realise how offensive some people may find it.

I don't think she should have been given the boot, just a very severe warning. However, Channel 4 had no option to remove her, just to save face. There would have been uproar if she had remained.

I don't think she should have been given the boot, just a very severe warning. However, Channel 4 had no option to remove her, just to save face. There would have been uproar if she had remained.

This is how I feel. She was stupid, and didnt think - and she should of been given a harsh talking to, PLUS a warning. I think kicking her out was drastic - but channel 4 couldnt of done anything else.

I wonder if Emily will go into hiding now, or if she will be on every TV program justifying her actions.

I am not watching but saw on GMTV this morning that because of this there will be no eviction this week and of course everyone that has texted/phoned in has wasted their money yet again! My personal opion is that BB should be pulled now. :boxing:

I think she is a racist. The stories of other incidents are in today's press. She has had a priv upbringing. It would seem from what we have see form her that she lacked humility or an appreciation of others. I would deduce from that, that her parents were intolerant of "lower" people and she has picked it up. I actually think that she let slip what she was thinking. She did not like Charley and she was reacting to Charley sticking out her non existent tummy pretending to be fat. I would imagine that Emily, who could see straight through Charley, was thinking "oh brother now she is saying she is fat so that we say..oh no Charley you are sooo thin" and let slip what she had in her head.

She was not being pally saying "you go girl" she was criticising Charley for being fake and so it is not the same as being street. I think she was being genuinely racist. Hence the reason that Charley and to a lesser extent Nicky reacted in such a manner.

I am not watching but saw on GMTV this morning that because of this there will be no eviction this week and of course everyone that has texted/phoned in has wasted their money yet again! My personal opion is that BB should be pulled now. :boxing:

apparently Channel 4 have told people to go to the website to claim a refund if they have already voted.....

From watching the clip I think the word just slipped out - because as soon as she said it she looked very shocked herself and said something along the lines of 'oh my God I just called you a n.....'
It's worrying that that word was so close to the surface for it to have popped out just like that!

Is there anyone on the board from Bristol? Is it true that its a word that's used all the time there as she said?

If has a lot of black friends, then I'm sure it comes as second nature to her. After all, many black people call each other "that word". Charley should be grateful she felt so comfortable with her to say that. Still a foolish slip-up, but not ill-meant.

If has a lot of black friends, then I'm sure it comes as second nature to her. After all, many black people call each other "that word". Charley should be grateful she felt so comfortable with her to say that. Still a foolish slip-up, but not ill-meant.

Yeah, but, no, but.........

I have got a lot of black friends, but I wouldnt dream of calling them the N word, and as far as I know they dont use it themselves...... in my personal experience the only people who DO use that word are US Rappers and ignorant fools......

Having said that, I did have to pull my step kids up several times for using the word when I was in Devon, they argued that "everyone" called each other it at school - it is 95% white british down there and the only time they had heard the word was from the dodgy gangstaaaaa rap they listened to - they thought it was cool to call each other it - even if they were white :huh:

I think that stupid Emily was trying to be street and cool, but she ISNT, I think she has probably had a bit of a sheltered upbringing, and perhaps like my stepkids, hasnt really mixed with others from different cultures.....

Yeah, but, no, but.........

I have got a lot of black friends, but I wouldnt dream of calling them the N word, and as far as I know they dont use it themselves...... in my personal experience the only people who DO use that word are US Rappers and ignorant fools...........

I agree ISIS, I have just been discussing this with two black colleauges, one a young guy and they are both aghast at that word and both said it was TOTALLY out of order to use it in any context at all.

I hate the use of the word and think Emily was out of order saying it. But Charley so got on my nerves. At first it was "it's ok Em don't worry about it", but soon changed to "Em that was terrible what you said". Along with then repeating the word many times over herself. I think she should have been pulled up by repeating the use of the word as well. Not as severe a punishment obviously, but at least a good talking to.

I agree ISIS, I have just been discussing this with two black colleauges, one a young guy and they are both aghast at that word and both said it was TOTALLY out of order to use it in any context at all.

Its something my friends and I have discussed recently - one of my friends has 3 mixed race kids, the lad looks like he is white, whereas the girls are quite dark skinned, anyway, the lad has just jacked his job on a big site in birmingham city centre because he got sick to death of having to hear the ignorant white fools he worked with calling black people the N word - they werent aware that he is mixed race and were all apologetic when they found out, but as he says, the damage was done then, he was really hurt and upset about it......and who can blame him! His mother was RAGING about it all and I dont blame her!

I hate the use of the word and think Emily was out of order saying it. But Charley so got on my nerves. At first it was "it's ok Em don't worry about it", but soon changed to "Em that was terrible what you said". Along with then repeating the word many times over herself. I think she should have been pulled up by repeating the use of the word as well. Not as severe a punishment obviously, but at least a good talking to.

I dont like Charley, I think she is an up herself silly cow, but in her defence, I dont think she quite knew how to deal with it - it took a while to sink in i think, and as discussed on GMTV this morning, she may not have known how to admit she was upset/shocked about it, she may have been to embarrassed - NOT that she had anything to be embarrassed about of course - but how often have you been in a position where someone says something inappropriate and you brush it off saying it doesnt matter??? when it so does!!

I thought she handled it quite well considering!

I hate the use of the word and think Emily was out of order saying it. But Charley so got on my nerves. At first it was "it's ok Em don't worry about it", but soon changed to "Em that was terrible what you said". Along with then repeating the word many times over herself. I think she should have been pulled up by repeating the use of the word as well. Not as severe a punishment obviously, but at least a good talking to.

I know what you mean. Charley turned to Emily and said something like 'blimey, lets hope BB didnt pick up on that or you will be in trouble'. She then brought it up again about 10 times ..... just to make sure that it WAS definately picked up on.

They then decided not to tell any of the other housemates ... only for Charley to go and tell everyone :blink:

Its interesting really. Here at university I have heard both black and white people using the word, on friendly terms, rather than trying to be abusive.

I think it's highly possible that different environments treat the word completely differently. If that had occured around us and many of my fellow students (many of which I do not know, but have heard using it), nothing would have been thought of it.

I would like to add, I don't personally use the word, and would never use it in a situation where I know it could cause offense.

I would deduce from that, that her parents were intolerant of "lower" people and she has picked it up.

I find the assumption that 'lower' people would include people of colour, inherently racist itself.

I find the assumption that 'lower' people would include people of colour, inherently racist itself.
I think that's IoW's point, Fee.

If has a lot of black friends, then I'm sure it comes as second nature to her. After all, many black people call each other "that word". Charley should be grateful she felt so comfortable with her to say that. Still a foolish slip-up, but not ill-meant.


I know it's a knee jerk reaction and I can't possibly know, but frankly I'd be utterly gobsmacked if she could count her black friends on one finger!

After watching the highlights I'm pretty sure that Charley should be at the very least penalised as she said the N word too. I know she was referring to herself but I still don't think it's OK for ANYONE to say. Thre is always the potential that someone will be offended. and btw - didn't Charley totally over egg her reaction - it seemed to go on for aeons!!

ditto the others on here I don't know of any black friends I've had past or present that have ever referred to themselves by the N word, although I fully accept that most of them are old farts who aren't particuarly up on street talk or gangsta rap!

I'm talking about IoW making that assumption, PJ. Her family might be snobs, but why connect that with racism, unless your belief system led you to include people of colour within the 'lower' classification?

Am I alone in thinking that people who bang on about racist comments (it should be banned, they should be punished, it's totally unacceptable, etc) probably have hidden issues with it themselves?

No, I agree with you.

Am I alone in thinking that people who bang on about racist comments (it should be banned, they should be punished, it's totally unacceptable, etc) probably have hidden issues with it themselves?

I don't know if your alone in thinking that, but I would say that often people would rather not confront ugly things in life, such as racism, snobbery and sometimes blanket banning can cut out the need for discussion which, to be frank suits some people.

I personally have no time for racism because it's something I have come across, not personally, but friends of mine have and it's caused nothing but upset and feelings of isolation. I, personally have no hidden issues when I say no-one should be saying the N word - I think it is a dispicable thing for ANYONE to say - whether it's been "reclaimed" or not!

I'm not naive though I know there are racist people out there - heck I work with a couple of 'em! but I don't confront I just ignore - not always the solution but it helps me.

... err I don't think I really answered your question did I! I may not have understood it! apologies if I've gorn off at a tangent!

I find the assumption that 'lower' people would include people of colour, inherently racist itself.

In the context of putting myself in the shoes of Emily's upbringing then that is my point. You are correct.

I mean that often the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing and that can apply to our own attitudes.

Take for instance the newspaper that on the one hand screams 'Big Brother Racism, this can't be tolerated' and on the other hand 'Immigrants - if you don't like our ways then go home'.

I believe there are plenty of people who think that way.

In the context of putting myself in the shoes of Emily's upbringing then that is my point. You are correct.

So why have you assumed her family would automatically see people of colour as beneath them? Do you know them, or are you applying your own beliefs here?

So why have you assumed her family would automatically see people of colour as beneath them? Do you know them, or are you applying your own beliefs here?

No, i know them personally and at a variety of fancy dinner parties I have quizzed them at length about their views on race and class, mostly when the port was brought in.

and no you cant come to the next one.

I mean that often the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing and that can apply to our own attitudes.

Take for instance the newspaper that on the one hand screams 'Big Brother Racism, this can't be tolerated' and on the other hand 'Immigrants - if you don't like our ways then go home'.

I believe there are plenty of people who think that way.

oh you mean being hypocritical.

well I suppose the example above is a bit like pyschological testing - eventually your sins will find you out if the question is phrased enough tiems in a slightly different way.

I think most of us are hypocritical to some degree. There's a a lot of "not in my back yard" thinking that goes on today. People seem to want to be all embracing and equal as long as it doesn't affect them! eg. you may think that Borstal is good for young offenders - but would you want a borstal in your town? or you may say you're not racist but if you lost out on a job to an Eastern European you might find yourself saying something you might not say in normal circumstances.

as for the papers - they shimmy they shammy but they never take responsibility for being hypocritical.

Edit: Surprisingly I was sober when I wrote that - but I'm obviously over tired!

Anyway, SF - are you in or out on this year's BB viewing? or are you just dipping your toe in every now and then?

I read this atricle at the weekend by the lovely DJ Spoony :wub: and I think what he says makes perfect sense!!!!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_method=full%26objectid=19264638%26siteid=89520-name_page.html